Collective Punishment

[Updates below.]

The London bus and tube bombings took place less than 24 hours ago and the calls for killing/deporting/arrresting/interrogating all Muslims/Arabs/Leftists/Dissidents have already been made in the comment sections of Little Green Footballs:

If there are no Arabs there are no attacks

-#17

No Islam no Terror.

-Rune

Hey, better start wanding all those British grandmothers, Tahitians and American Eskimos. We wouldn't want to unfairly profile Muslims, now would we? Pathetic. I say round them all up and send them back home. An oath of fealty is worthless because of their almost universal adherence to taqiyya.

-Hankmeister

Know is-slum,
Know terror.

NO is-slum,
NO terror!

-paxnhymn

Hang the terrorists at Gitmo.

Throw out the muslims.

Fill the buses and the subways of Michael Moores ("There is no terrorist threat") and Durbins, and make them run until some islamofascist explodes them.

-Poitiers-Lepanto

Waiting for the LLL to play the 'Blame the Victim' card - 'This wouldn't have happened if Bush didn't lie and go to Iraq'.

Damn these whining people to hell - this is a war of Civilization. Good vs Evil. Freedom vs Tyranny. The left are Quislers, and enemies of America. Deport them now.

-kstagger

Maybe they'll take out that Finley Park Mosque with a jdam, during prayers hopefully!

-Jakester

To his credit, Powderfinger speaks up to say this isn't a racial problem. To his discredit, Powderfinger says it's a religious problem. Ditto for rednaxela.

He said he was "very concerned about a backlash" and called on British Muslims to "remain vigilant and calm and stay indoors".

How about remaining calm indoors....in a plane heading to the Mideast holding revoked UK passports?

-coulterclone

To world leaders:,

Invade the entire ME now! Get it over with!

-'Nam Grunt

Yeah, I DO lump them all together. Why not? The make little real effort to distinguish themselves from each other that I can see.

The solution is simple. Outlaw Islam. It's not a religion. It's a cult. Janet Reno every mosque in the country.

-jaybird

If any mosque or Islamic center can suddenly churn out these types of sociopaths, and it becomes more obvious every day that they can, what are our sworn defenders going to do about it?

-Beagle

What really shocks me here is footage of London hours after the attacks. Scores of Muslims in full garb- hijabs, burkas, men in nightie-pyjamathingies,just strolling around! You never see that after an attack in Israel so it just shocked the sh*t out of me. These Brits are living in a true lion's den.

-T.A Tiger

89 Jaybird

The solution is simple. Outlaw Islam. It's not a religion

yes

-Poitiers-Lepanto

London will stand again...

But I really hate and despise muslims and their cult of death and destruction...

-Pitiricus

Morning Charles, LGF family. Such a sad day. A grown man, sitting alone in his office, tears streaming down his face. I should be out driving my CAT, but I can't seem to leave this site. This is bigger than work, bigger than all else.
Please Nations of Liberty.......win this war. NOW.

I have no tolerance left for muslims. God forbid I should see one today. He or she would not like my sentiments.

May God bless the Brits and be with them today, on their day of awakening..........

May those that follow Islam find NO PEACE from those of us who believe in FREEDOM.

-Owl

105 PK

You know editors and producers are scrambling their troops to get the sympathetic muslims as victims angle.

I'd like to give them a story to write about.

-loppyd

It is now time to force muslims to make a choice: Live peacefully or die. I prefer the latter.

-RickZ

Where's the damn football?!

MUST...PUSH...BUTTON....

(deep breaths)

-aRedPhishHead

I assume this means the "nuclear football" that is with the President at all times.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings if we nuked mecca, got all the filthy muslims out of their mosques and burned them all to the ground. This isn't about religion, it's about a death cult that kills innocent people. enough is enough.

-Owl

I think there are very few options as to how to deal with these people...

I think we may need to rid the globe of another religion...

-tfc3rid

The more the War of September 11th goes on, the more I find myself agreeing with Ann Coulter's initial reaction to the 9/11 attacks.
I hate these sons of fucks for making hate necessary.

-BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I assume those would be: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."

Yes, I'm afraid "Democrat" is now synonomous with "Traitor."

-TalkinKamel

THE FUCKING LAMO WANKERS HAVE BLOWN UP MY CITY!

THIS IS LONODN'S 9/11.

GET THE MUSLIMS OUT NOW!

-Jwarrior

Yhe news is being reported, the story, however,is currently being played out in the Mosques of the West. The news crews should be at these dens of subrefuge, recording their gleeful celebrations and not hovering at the bomb sites trying to capture more gore. We have already seen gore for far to long. It is now time to address the problem. Anyone with any recon or intel experience shoild be all over their local mosques and Islamasist owned buisinesses and quietly observing and making notes to prepare for the enevitable. The goverment has failed again. It may be time for some ad hoc grassrooots direct action along the lines of the phoenix program. It's kill or be killed folks and your leadership is knitting. They should inter them all, sort out the assholes, then put them on barge in the South Pacific and sink it. Short of some kind of pro active measures (perhaps some less dramatic and short sighted than the barge scenario are in order first) by the goverment, expect more gore to follow, all dutifully reported by some bimbo with a communications degree. If the media and the pols do not get on board now and this occours in th US (and it will given our ostrich posturing) EXPECT THE INNER REDNECK TO ARISE OUT OF NORMALLY DECENT CITIZENS.

-Ackomanyuki

#321 Buckaroo, we don't need finger prints. Just send every koranic person on a one way Hajj for a life time of bliss in Mecca.

-Roger

#328:

"Ein aravim, ein piguim!"

Yes.

-Golden Jerusalem

#344 Ed:

In English:

"No arabs, no [terrorist] attacks"

It's a graffitti you see around here.

-Golden Jerusalem

There is only one way to stop it. When the world has the stomach for that, it'll be over.
It may be un-PC, and it may be insensitive, and it may even seem a little crazy...but if we are to stop the muslim death cult there is only ONE way....

KILL.THEM.ALL.

-Owl

All cell phones should have GPS that cannot be disabled w/o destroying the device. All locations should be monitored. If these locations dissect known mosques/terrorist locations they should be flagged. All cell phones should routinely be disabled in cities above a certain side. We lived w/o them for a long time as strange as it seems.

-David2

It may not be racially/ideologically/theologically based, but it certainly qualifies as collective punishment.

I'll tell you how. There is only one way to get rid of this monster.

We have to ban and reject islam in our societes.

I would personally declare war on the entire ideology - a worldwide civil war, but I guess it would be hard to gain support for that strategy.

I see no other way. I don't believe the religion will reform itself, and 1400 years of history proves it will never assimilate to our values.

-GreatDane

In the end, radical Islam will have to be eliminated, one way or the other. It's just a question as to when Western civilization reaches the tipping point, where they have the stomach and will to finish the job.

Seriosly, one thing we easily, without too much force or pain involved, could do in the near future is to CONFISCATE THEIR [EXPLETIVE DELETED] ROCK!

-Killian Bundy

Ceterum censeo Islam delenda est

-Rocket Rod

Rough translation: "I conclude that Islam must be destroyed."

You get the idea.

UPDATED 7/11/2005 11:25am
Charles Johnson of LGF:

Chris Bowers at MyDD attacks LGF readers today, for verbally expressing their anger at the mass murder in London: Why Right Wing Blogs Don’t Allow Comments.

This is a great example of how far the left has devolved; London suffers the worst terrorist attack in her history, with more than 50 dead and as many as a thousand injured, and people like Chris Bowers are just horrified that anyone would react to such an atrocity with rage.

In other words, react like human beings.

This comment wasn't aimed at me, but I'll respond anyway.

What is so human about demanding that an entire religion be banned or an entire race of people be expelled from a country?

Mr. Johnson, is is possible to be more disgusted and angered by the terrorist attacks in London and still take the time to show what a substantial chunk of your readership wants to do to the people they dislike. Rage can be appropriate in reaction to wanton death and destruction. It isn't when formulating the response to it, especially when you include people WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT VIOLENCE in that response.

Some good examples of the delusion in play here, from the very thread Mr. Johnson created:

They're angry at us, and not the Islamic terrorists who committed this latest atrocity.

That says it all.

-Spiritualized

what a maroon.

the people who CRITICIZE the terrorists are evil, not the terrorists themselves.

-blue_like_jazz

Islamic fundamentalists blow up innocents in London, and according to leftists, we are not supposed to express any anger, emotion or outrage.

[...]

At least the anger LGF posters express IS directed at THE ACTUAL PERPETRATORS of the bombings and murder.

-Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs

# 74 Mycroft:

The truth is there is an element here that routinely expresses some very ugly thoughts, and that's damaging to the credibility of the rest.

Oooh, ugly thoughts. As compared to deliberately targeting civilians just going to work, or children just going to school, or blowing up vacationers on holiday, or hostages beheaded and replayed all over the internet for a vicarious thrill? Hmmm, ugly thoughts vs. actual acts of brutality. Now which one is worse, I wonder . . . . From your post, I can really tell that you do wonder, to your shame.

-RickZ

Gratifyingly, there are some posters in that thread mentioning who they thought some of the comments were over the line.

Back to Mr. Johnson:

For Bowers, there’s apparently no difference between spouting off on a comment system and actually committing genocide. And if you dare to imply that Britain may have a problem with immigration from Islamic countries, the day after a bloody demonstration of that fact, why, you’re an evil racist!

Read the post for yourself. The topic of that post is limited to right-wing blogs, the comments he thinks are likely to appear on them, and the reason why those blogs don't allow comments. You're putting words into his mouth, unless you have other evidence. You have commenters openly calling for genocide. You have commenters who single out Arabs and Muslims as a whole as the most important source of terrorist problems. Your defense of them and willful ignorance of what they are demanding only hurts your character.

Shine that light all you want, Chris. Anyone who bothers to actually follow your link will also find a vast majority of thoughtful and well-reasoned comments, of course; on the day you cherry-picked your 10 statements, there were almost 5,000 comments posted here.

In the two immediate-reaction posts from which I quoted the long list of above LGF commenters, I think it is quite clear that Mr. Bower's statement that "The calls for genocide and apartheid are flowing freely" is accurate. I spent the better part of the morning going through those threads end-to-end and aside from the "Powderfinger" note, no one at the time I looked called for moderation or easing up on the rhetoric. I have no doubt that if I took the time to examine further, I could come up with a list five times as long from the more recent posts.

Mr. Bowers does leap dramatically overboard, however, when he declares the reason why big traffic right-wing blogs don't allow comments:

There is a reason why blogs like Instapundit and Powerline do not allow comments, and why Time magazine would give its "Blog of the Year" award to Powerline even though Free Republic actually "broke" the CBS story. There is a concerted effort on the part of the right to prevent this sort of overt racism and fascism on the right from being given any sunshine.

I demand the highest quality of proof to support claims that assert not only a widespread conspiracy but also one motivated by a specific desire. Unless Mr. Bowers can demonstrate Glenn Reynolds, Michelle Malkin, John Hinderaker/Scott Johnson/Paul Mirengoff, Andrew Sullivan, Hugh Hewitt, and so on are all working together to suppress the expression of their readership's not-so-subtle desires because it might make The Conservative Cause look bad, he's blowing smoke to score cheap political points. There are perfectly valid reasons why a blogger would not allow comments that have nothing to do with keeping the political substance of those readers' thoughts off the blog.

Posted by Drizzten at July 07, 2005 12:30 PM