November 11, 2004
The Hypocrisy of Daily Kos

[Updates below.]

If [Mike Thompson] wants to leave the good ol' US of A, he can agitate all he wants. There should be a place where racist, xenophobic, bigoted, crazies can congregate and create a 13th century utopia, where such things as Democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and freedom to live one's life absent government interference need not apply.

-Markos Moulitsas Zúniga

My emphasis.

*eyes narrow*

This man supported Howard Dean during the primaries and then supported John Kerry during the election. Both of these Democrats endorsed and desired government interference (often at an increased level) in our lives in the form of:

  • Taxation
  • Labor regulation
  • Environmental regulation
  • Health care plans covering all/more Americans
  • Legal protection for affirmative action
  • Medicare
  • Social Security
  • Campaign finance limits
  • Public education
  • Subsidized higher education
  • "Fair trade"
  • The subjugation of our aggregate interests to the international community
  • Gun regulation

I'm certain others with more time and patience could come up with more. Suffice to say, I doubt Mr. Zúniga has any fundamental problems with those above plans.

But most importantly, any endorsement of government - in whatever form - is an endorsement of removing some of the "freedom to live one's life absent government interference." The sphere of power a state operates in is a sphere of limited liberty. At it's most very basic, even the minarchist ideal "night watchman state" must have a monopoly on the initiation of force in order to impose its laws, its court system, and its national defense apparatus. The form of that state and how it earns its legitimacy are also irrelevant. Democracy is a synonym for the outcome and process of Billy Beck's ethics test

Let's say that you woke up one morning and, looking out your front window, you observed a crowd of people at the end of your driveway. Let's say that you went out there to say "hi" and find out what's going on. On your arrival, you discover that this crowd of individuals was getting ready to hold a referendum on whether they should enter your house and take your things, to be put to their use.

The specifics of Mr. Zúniga's politics are irrelevant as long as he desires government to continue existing. Kos cannot say he supports the idea of "freedom to live one's life absent government interference" and simultaneously support the existence of a state, let alone the millions of laws and regulations our current system of government imposes on us.

And don't think I consider the other side of the aisle to be much better. It isn't. But don't think you can just spout off nonsense about wanting to be free from government interference when the entire reason so many people know who you are and visit your websites is because you want more of that interference.

UPDATE 11/16/2004 8:40am
Welcome, Catallarchy visitors!

I forgot to add something. A while back, this supposed fighter for freedom had this to say:

I prefer to look beyond November. To be blunt, I want what the Republicans have -- the trifecta. I want the White House, Congress, and the Supreme Court. I want as many state houses and legislatures as we can get. I want complete dominance.

How can a person who wants to control everything be trusted?

UPDATE 1/18/2005 9:40am
Kos continues to amaze me.

UPDATED 4/19/2005 10:24am
The Democratic Party: The Party of Personal Liberty?, Fiscal Responsibility?, Meteor Blades Needs Economics, Economic Ignorance, For the Privatization of Freedom, Sacred Cows and Kossack Hypocrisy, and Kos Strikes Again

UPDATED 6/7/2006 6:08pm
The Myth of the Libertarian Democrat



Posted by Drizzten at November 11, 2004 09:46 AM

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That isn't hypocrisy. Saying, in essence, that he likes the fact that minimal government infringement on personal liberty is a traditional American value does not contradict supporting a candidate who supports *some* taxation, or *some* "government interference."

When he said "freedom to live one's life absent government interference", he clearly was not advocating a stateless nation. His wording was a mistake in that it was overly broad, but knowing he is a moderate liberal who supports the idea of the State, he was clearly referring to social freedoms (the context makes this very clear). This isn't really hypocrisy, it's more like a misleading use of language.

Posted by: Jason on November 16, 2004 01:16 AM

Jason, either he meant what he said or he didn't. If he didn't, he certainly did not qualify his remarks to keep his meaning clear. If he did, he's a grand hypocrite for the reasons I mentioned or a liar. Simple as that.

Mr. Zúniga's stand on the political spectrum is obvious to me and anyone who scans his writing. The only freedom he advocates people have is of a limited personal and economic variety. A moderate he is not. He reached out in the past to libertarians (http://www.drizzten.com/blargchives/000337.html ) and I explained exactly why such an alliance would fail: he either cannot or will not see the fundamental point that all liberties - social or economic - are merely extensions of individual liberty and it is to that individual liberty's defense we should rise.

I stand by my remarks.


Posted by: Drizz on November 16, 2004 08:57 AM
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