April 08, 2004
Oppose Rep. Eddie Rodriguez's Texas Income Tax Plan

[Updates below.]

Via Andrew D at Burnt Orange Report, I hear of Representative Eddie Rodriguez and his plan to impose a state income tax in order to solve the Texas school funding crisis. His website, Texas for Lower Taxes spells out the details:

The Rodriguez Plan shifts the entire burden of funding school operations from the local school districts (who collect the majority of your property taxes) to the State ... which will pick up the tab by using revenue collected through a State Education Income Tax.

The Proposed State Education Income Tax would produce about $19 Billion in new state revenue. This money would first be used to replace the most burdensome local property tax ... the Maintenance and Operations Property Tax (sometimes referred to as "The Robin Hood Tax"). This will still leave a balance of approximately $5.1 billion for two other key objectives.

  • abolish the State's Corporate Franchise Tax, and
  • provide Uniform Group Health Insurance for Teachers (and other public school employees).

    [...]

    Only the M&O Property Tax is abolished by this plan. The M&O tax represents about 85% of most local school taxes and it is the onerous component that drives up local taxes and appraisals. It is also the basis for the state's recapture provision, which distributes taxes from "wealthy" districts to "poor" ones.


  • The other property tax, I & S (Interest and Sinking), "covers long term debt (i.e. bonds) and other long term contractual obligations", according to the Travis County website. As such, it's a different legal beast.

    The Maintenance and Operations Property Tax is a tax placed on:

    • residential real estate - houses
    • business personal property - furniture, inventory, and equipment
    • commercial real estate - buildings used for stores, dwellings, offices, warehouses, etc.; it also applies to the land they sit on

    The M & O tax has a ceiling of $1.50 per $100 of property value. Almost 500 of the more than 1,000 Texas public school districts have hit that ceiling and another 175 are within a dime of reaching that limit. In effect this establishes a statewide property tax, something forbidden under the Texas Constitution. This is why an increasing number of school districts are suing to get the current system changed: they're getting screwed from the tax wealth being redistributed from their "property-rich" districts to "property-poor" districts.

    The Rodriguez Plan's income tax rates:

    The Education Income Tax rates have been developed with the primary goal of spreading the burden of taxation fairly, based on a household's disposable income. Obviously, working families with very low incomes have very little disposable income. Their ability to pay taxes is lower than a high income family, both by dollar amount and as a percentage of their total income. For this reason, the Education Income Tax for Texas utilizes a progressive rate of taxation, based on total Adjusted Gross Income, which is sensitive to each taxpayer's disposable income.
    A Personal Exemption of $3,200.00 is allowed for every filer and for each dependent declared by that filer. This is the only exemption provided.

    On all remaining income the rate of the tax is:
    1 % on the 1st $25,000.00
    2% on the 2nd $25,000.00
    3.5% on the 3rd $25,000.00
    5% on the 4th $25,000.00
    6.5% on the next $50,000.00
    7.0% on the next $50,000.00
    7.5% on additional income (all income above $200,000.00)


    Democrats just love to fuck those people earning 200 grand and up the hardest, don't they?

    I make $30,000 a year with my current job, before federal theft taxes and voluntary deductions for various employer-offered programs. So I'd roughly pay $200+ a year in this proposed state income tax. Which I don't support. Not too far back, I did support the idea of replacing the property tax with a different sales tax, but I no longer do. No taxes and no public-funded education are my goals.

    Andrew D has this to say about the Rodriguez Plan:

    My state rep, Eddie Rodriguez has made a very gutsy move by proposing a state income tax. While he's in no danger of losing his district (in liberal, majority Hispanic East Austin), this issue is still the Third Rail of Texas politics. Nothing evokes quite the demagoguery of this issue. Eddie is trying to cut through that nonsense and fearmongering with an honest and open look at what it would really mean for Texans.

    The answer is that it would be a magic bullet- lower taxes for the vast majority of Texans with greater revenue.

    [...]

    Maybe if people learn how much they'll save, we can finally get some real revenue solutions for Texas.


    I don't oppose these taxes on the grounds that they cost me X - Y dollars rather than X dollars. I oppose them because they are a forced transfer of wealth.

    I live in an apartment, so I don't have to pay the hated property taxes directly, but I know people who do. Even if I did, I'd still be angry at being taxed to provide services to others whether I wanted to or not. An income tax plan is a giant step in the wrong direction.

    The only people exempt from the Rodriguez Plan are those who make less than $3,200 a year. It would completely socialize the costs of education for wage earners in this state. It won't matter if you have children or not. I won't matter if you send your children to private schools. It won't matter if you never intend on having children. You will be forced to pay for the education of all Texans in public schools. That is immoral.

    This plan shifts the taxation burden to a vastly larger audience. Currently, it's just imposed on homeowners and businesses. The plan expands the state's reach to practically every working adult. That's why Rep. Rodriguez and the plan's supporters can claim "tax savings."

    Andrew D:

    The website has a great little calculator on the front page that lets you find out how much you would save with the Rodriguez plan. a family of 4 earning $40,000 a year in a $120,000 that taxes at the current $1.50 per $100 value cap (which most school districts in Texas are at) would pay only $294 a year, a savings of $1,281! Even if you are a single person making $250,000 a year and living in a $1 million home, you would save $1,640 a year. Only the incredibly wealthy would see any raise in their taxes and even then, if they are paying corporate franchise taxes from their business, they would see savings there.

    This isn't a "magic bullet" at all. It's simple economics. Each person pays less because more people are paying.

    From the FAQ:

    Although this figure varies widely across the state, for every $100.00 you now pay in rent, approximately $10.00 represents the cost your landlord must recover to pay the M&O property tax on your rental home or apartment.
    That means I pay roughly $55 in extra rent to cover the M & O tax. That means I'd pay $150 more than I normally do. This is a huge Fuck You to the hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of apartment dwellers and people in assisted living residencies (65,000 in nursing homes alone) in this state.

    Not only does this tax hurt more people, it also opens the door wide to future abuse. I can't think of a major government program (and this would certainly qualify) that didn't grow to screw larger and larger numbers of people over it's lifetime. "The power to tax is the power to destroy," said Supreme Court Justice John Marshall. The horribly destructive power of income taxes would be available for politicians to use for the first time in Texas. Give it a few years; perhaps a decade, and you'll have situations arise where politicians want to use the tax to pay for other things. Imagine a terrorist attack happening in the state and an investigation comes to the conclusion that first responders and emergency services needed more money to save more lives. BAM! Calls for using the income tax and for expanding it to pay for these services would increase. Any number of "reasonable" things would get tax attention. It just won't end. Skeptics should look at the federal government for affirmation of this.

    I simply do not care if support is growing for a state income tax. The popularity of an idea does not translate into validity for that idea.

    The Rodriguez Plan shifts the entire burden of funding school operations from the local school districts (who collect the majority of your property taxes) to the State ... which will pick up the tab by using revenue collected through a State Education Income Tax.

    This is a LIE. The "state" picks up nothing. TEXANS will get stuck with the bill.

    I hope this effort fails utterly, because it's a bad idea and it's packaged in dangerous clothing. If the debate is framed in the light of accomplishing tax relief for most Texans, it stands a good chance of passing. The debate shouldn't be about that. It shouldn't be about how to pay for public education.

    It should be how to extract the State of Texas from education entirely and put the burden of financing education back on the individuals who want to benefit from it. This the only honest and just way of doing it.

    UPDATE(4/9/2004 1:01pm)
    Similarly, Governor Perry's school funding plans aren't any better.

    Governor looks at variety of taxes to fund schools

    Gov. Rick Perry proposed a new education finance plan Thursday in San Antonio.

    The plan would add $2.5 billion to Texas public schools while simultaneously cutting property taxes by $6 billion.

    The plan would reduce taxes through what Perry calls a ?constitutionally linked roll'' that would reduce the residential property tax cap by 25 cents and the property tax cap on commercial property by 10 cents.

    "My plan includes a $1 per pack cigarette tax hike, fees on adult entertainment establishments, closing the franchise and auto sales tax loopholes to make them fairer and, if Texas voters agree, video lottery terminals in approved areas of this state," Perry said.

    Copyright ©2004TWEAN News Channel of Austin, L.P. d.b.a. News 8 Austin


    News8Austin and the AP compiled a list of the tax changes Perry would enact:
    1. Video lottery at race tracks/lottery enhancements: $2 billion
    2. Cigarette and tobacco tax increases: $2.4 billion
    3. Surcharge increase on certain cigarette manufacturers: $134 million
    4. Adult entertainment $5 minimum admission tax: $90 million
    5. Close franchise tax loopholes: $714 million
    6. Close auto sales tax loophole: $172 million
    7. Tax revenue acceleration: $1.2 billion
    8. Improve collection of delinquent taxes: $350 million

    Some Republican you are.

    UPDATE(4/28/2004 9:24am)
    The proposed solutions for Texas school financing aren't any better.

    UPDATE(4/28/2004 9:47pm)
    Found the introductory text of the bill.

    H.J.R. No. 9

    A JOINT RESOLUTION


    proposing a constitutional amendment that provides for the approval of an income tax adopted by the legislature, requires that a deduction or exemption to the tax that redistributes the combined tax liability be approved in a statewide referendum, and allows revenue from the tax to be spent on education and any other purpose.

      BE IT RESOLVED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:

    SECTION 1. Section 24, Article VIII, Texas Constitution, is amended by adding Subsections (b-1), (b-2), (b-3), and (k) to read as follows:

    (b-1) A general law enacted by the legislature that establishes an exemption or deduction to the tax in a manner that results in a redistribution of the combined income tax liability among all persons subject to the tax may not take effect until approved by a majority of the registered voters voting in a statewide referendum held on the question of establishing the exemption or deduction. A determination of whether an exemption or deduction to the tax would result in a redistribution of the combined income tax liability among all persons subject to the tax must be made by comparing the provisions of the proposed change in law with the provisions of the law for the most recent year in which actual tax collections have been made. A referendum held under this subsection must specify the manner in which the proposed exemption or deduction would result in a redistribution of the combined income tax liability among all persons subject to the tax.

    (b-2) If the legislature in a bill enacts a general law that imposes a tax on the net incomes of natural persons as described by Subsection (a) of this section, and, in the same bill, repeals another tax or fee, the legislature may not reenact the other tax or fee unless the legislature repeals the tax that was imposed on the net incomes of natural persons. If the legislature in a bill enacts a general law that imposes a tax on the net incomes of natural persons as described by Subsection (a) of this section, and, in the same bill, reduces the rate or base of another tax or fee, the legislature may not increase the rate or base of the other tax or fee unless the legislature repeals the tax that was imposed on the net incomes of natural persons.

    (b-3) If the legislature in a bill enacts a general law that increases the rate of the income tax or changes the income tax as described by Subsection (b) of this section, and, in the same bill, repeals another tax or fee, the legislature may not reenact the other tax or fee unless the legislature repeals the increase in the rate of the income tax or repeals the changes to the income tax. If the legislature in a bill enacts a general law that increases the rate of the income tax or changes the income tax as described by Subsection (b) of this section, and, in the same bill, reduces the rate or base of another tax or fee, the legislature may not increase the rate or base of the other tax or fee unless the legislature repeals the increase in the rate of the income tax or repeals the changes to the income tax.

    (k) This subsection is a temporary provision that expires January 1, 2005. The approval of this subsection by the voters at an election held November 2, 2004, constitutes approval of the imposition of an income tax adopted by the legislature during a regular or special session before that date.

    SECTION 2. Sections 24(f), (g), (h), and (i), Article VIII, Texas Constitution, are repealed.

    SECTION 3. This proposed constitutional amendment shall be submitted to the voters at an election to be held November 2, 2004. The ballot shall be printed to permit voting for or against the proposition: "The constitutional amendment that approves the income tax adopted by the legislature, requires a deduction or exemption to the tax that redistributes the combined tax liability be approved in a statewide referendum, and allows revenue from the tax to be spent on education and any other purpose."

    UPDATE(5/4/2004 9:08am) I did some quick 'n dirty educational cost calculations of my own.

    UPDATE(5/10/2004 1:25pm)
    Another bad idea: a universal curriculum.

    UPDATE(5/20/2004 1:13pm)
    I've just discovered the perfect term for the economic reasoning behind taxing incomes: Pagare Tutti, Pagare Meno.

    UPDATE (7/1/2004 5:40pm)
    Having a few churches on your side doesn't change a damn thing.

    UPDATE 11/9/2004 2:28pm
    Eliminate the IRS...and Replace It with Nothing!

    Tax Cuts Do Not "put money" in Our Pockets



    Posted by Drizzten at April 08, 2004 02:39 PM

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    Well, lay your fears to rest, because Texas is NOT going to adopt an income tax, even to support constitutionally-required public education programs. However, in my view such a tax would be a much fairer method of taxation. Yes, people would pay it who have no children in public education - I don't have kids yet have paid thousands over the years for education - it's my obligation as a member of our society. Public education isn't socialism, as you describe it - its the most basic and fundamental part of our obligation to each other and to our future. But, never fear, the income tax proposal won't pass - Gov. Perry and others will just confuse the situation up by wasting time, pretending to be acting, imposing sin taxes as a band-aid. The fact is that, like you, they don't have much use for public education, or government in general. The thing is, some Texans actually expect our elected officials to govern, which is why it wouldn't be politically astute for them to so publicly give us the finger.

    Posted by: Dennis on April 8, 2004 02:51 PM

    Dennis, my fears are that the public can be easily swayed by arguments that a state income tax would be "cheaper" for them to use rather than property taxes. It opens the door to future discussion of an income tax.

    I'm sorry, but I don't recall signing up for an obligation towards anyone. Education is a service, different only in importance from car washes, hair cuts, and airplane travel. Humans don't have rights to a service: that means you have the right to enslave others for your needs. It means you have the right to take money from me to use for your ends and I have the right to take money from you for my own ends. I don't agree with that at all. Public education IS socialism: it's the systematic control and onwership over a market by the state. The only thing preventing the system from being entirely socialist are the few allowances for private schools and local control.

    Perry's options aren't an improvement, either. He concedes and agrees with the idea that the public should be forced to pay for the education of others; he just differs on the method of that payment. His proposed cigarette taxes are almost as abhorrent as this income tax, for the same reasons.

    I don't want elected officials to "govern" my life and my choices. You do. That's the crux of the problem.

    Posted by: Drizz on April 9, 2004 12:14 AM

    Well, I guess this puts you in Rep. Debbie Riddle territory--"Public education comes out of the pit of hell..."

    Most Texans realize that public education is vital for the future of the state, so your argument falls flat with the vast majority of Texans.

    Posted by: Terry on April 9, 2004 05:50 AM

    Terry, I don't know where you got the impression I don't think education is vital for humans to live safe, long, and happy lives. ( http://www.drizzten.com/blargchives/000759.html ) Education is TOO important to leave up to the goverment to inevitably screw up.

    Rep. Riddle's remarks may have been overly emotional, but she isn't wrong when she says the current conventional wisdom of the necessity of public education and an individual's "right" to education comes straight from communism and socialism.

    Posted by: Drizz on April 9, 2004 01:06 PM

    Also, Terry, you're arguing as though the number of an idea's adherents affect its validity. Tut tut.

    Posted by: Erik on April 11, 2004 11:03 PM

    When you go to http://www.texastaxrelief.com/ and plug in your numbers it reports that I would save $1746 per year. That sounds good to me. Maybe, we should consider the issue calmly and rationally rather than ideologically.

    Posted by: Craig on April 29, 2004 06:29 PM

    Craig, either you are for an income tax or you aren't. The details of the plan are essentially irrelevant because the principles involved remain the same. Do you support having the State of Texas steal your income through taxation and transferring it to public school districts or not? It doesn't really matter how much you save...you are still paying for the services of others who should be paying for themselves.

    It's no likely I'd save any money in this plan and would actually pay more. In respect to your comment, that should therefore mean the plan is a bad one, right?

    Approaching any proposed law from a principled standpoint is the only proper way to decide if it's worth enacting or not. Your emotional state when discussing the law is also irrelevant. The issues involved are too important to even consider acquiescing.

    Posted by: Drizz on April 30, 2004 09:19 AM

    You know, when I was a kid, lots of taxpayers kicked into the system for my education. Some of them didn't have kids, some of them sent their kids to private school. Lots of people that don't own cars help pay for bridges. I pay for the firemen that I thankfully, have never met personally.

    That's life in a developed country.

    If you want no taxes and no services, go to Darfur, or one of the other places on the globe where the taxes and services are non-existant.

    You might just decide that having a well educated doctor, banker, president(!), and community IS in your best interest.

    Posted by: once a kid myself on January 14, 2005 02:19 PM

    My father retired a full Colonel in the US Army in 1996, right after I turned 16. Quite obviously, nearly my entire childhood was funded by the American taxpayer. I regret that, because my life should not have been subsidized by those people under the threat of force.

    Those services and educated professionals you speak so fondly of can and have been provided by free markets in the past and do not require a government at all.

    It doesn't look like you gave my arguments any serious thought at all and just wanted to leave an opinion. That's fine. Just don't expect to change my mind that way.

    And if all else fails and you read nothing beyond this comment, commit this to memory: *I* choose what is in *MY* best interests and I will *NOT* choose to have others coerced by the state to hand over arbitrary portions of their wealth and time into the possession of the state in order for *IT* to decide what's in my best interest. That's called tyranny and apparently our public education system hasn't been able to communicate that concept adequately AT ALL for the last few decades.

    Posted by: Drizz on January 14, 2005 03:19 PM
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