State's dependence on property tax has to go
Among the many presenters at the Mexican-American Legislative Caucus hearing on public school finances last week in Arlington, El Paso state Sen. Eliot Shapleigh deserved an A-plus for guts and clarity.A MALC panelist teased that his presentation was a filibuster. On the contrary, his talk was a clearing of cobwebby thinking and empty political promises.
With his parade of statistics and graphs, Shapleigh had the nerve to state repeatedly -- as he had at other MALC hearings -- that the fairest and soundest way to fund Texas schools was to provide property tax relief through a state income tax.
If Texas passes an income tax, I may just move to New Hampshire.
I want to question Senator Shapleigh in front of live news cameras:
Sir, is it your contention that an income tax is the most fair way to fund Texas schools?Yes, that is my contention.
Sir, would an acceptable definition of "fair" be equal treatment for all?
Sounds fine to me.
Equally treating all...like how you filed a bill to treat all Texas public junior college students equally in regards to the tutition they owe?
Excuse me?
SB 201, which you authored. It attempted, essentially, to give "governing board[s] of junior college district[s]" located "in count[ies] that border the United Mexican States" the authority to "waive" the tutition fees for residents of "United Mexican States" who "register for lower division courses" and whom "demonstrate" a financial need after the financial resources of the foreign student and the student's family are considered." In place of the standard foreign tutition rates, the bill said the student "shall pay tuition at the rate charged Texas residents who reside outside the junior college district."
To provide an example of the difference between these two rates, Austin Community College charges $408 for 12 credit hours if you live "in district," $1,068 if you live "out of district," and a whopping $2,112 if you are an "out of state" or "international student." El Paso Community College - certainly a more pertinent example, don't you think, Senator? - charges $589 for 12 credit hours for "residents" and $800 for "non-residents." These are serious sums of money for incoming students. Your bill would have given some students cheaper access to these educational resources than other students.
That's equal treatment, correct, Sir?
Now look here...
Because it would certainly be equal treatment to give some students a cheaper ride through junior college and only through junior colleges that are on the Texas-Mexico border. That's fair, right?
Excuse me, but that bill was intended to help the needy, to aid immigrants from other countries in getting an education!
And thereby treating them differently from the rest of the student body, correct?
Well...
Not to mention only junior colleges along the Mexican border get to take part in this fair treatment.
Anyway, back to the Star-Telegram article:
A woman in the audience of about 100 shouted "no," but many others nodded. It is time for Texans to own up to their responsibility to pay their fair share instead of relying on regressive local property and state sales taxes.
Before idiot commenters like Richard Gonzales spouted bullshit about there being some "duty" that requires me to pay for someone else's education and someone to pay mine. Mr. Gonzales, you've made the assertion so you have to prove it. On what moral and philosophical grounds do you base this "duty" of mine? You lose ten points if you lamely point to the Texas Constitution because it engages in as much arbitrary assertion as you have done, as well as contradiction, for it is antithetical to liberty to require people to provide for the desires of others.
According to Shapleigh's statistics, Texans earning less than $19,500 pay 5.2 percent of their income on property tax; those who earn more than $90,150 pay 1.7 percent. Those groups pay 5.9 percent and 1.5 percent of their income on sales taxes, respectively.
According to the Center for Public Policy Priorities, the current tax system has failed to grow with the economy and the need for public services such as education. The sales tax that generates more than half of the state's tax revenue has not kept pace with the volume of actual sales.Even though Texas has one of the highest levels of property and sales taxes in the country, these taxes don't generate sufficient revenue.
But no one seems to hear them. Ignore the superficial cuts made last session. They didn't come close to what's necessary to bring the Texas state government in line with some semblance of reality.
Currently, the state-local tax support ratio for public school education is 38:62, according to Grand Prairie Superintendent David Barbosa. Fort Worth Superintendent Thomas Tocco said the ratio should be 60:40.
You should give up, uhmmm...$184,000 of your $285,000 base salary and give it directly to, uhmmm...Terlingua CSD! It's enrollment in 2000 was a paltry 184 children. That's $1,000 per kid! Or, on the other hand, since there are only about 20 teachers, that's a raise of $9,200 for each of them! Now we're talking! Sacrifice your unnecessary wages...give up your disposable income...do it because I said you have a duty to do it!
It's fun playing with other people's money. I'll address your family's collective wealth next time when someone brings up the inheritance tax. :)
The courts, through the Edgewood verdict or Robin Hood, tried to provide equity in public school funding. However, funding gaps between rich and poor districts still remain.Via a series of graphs, Arlington Superintendent Mac Bernd demonstrated that his district has a low operating expenditure per student and low administrative expenditures when compared to those of richer school districts.
He said that Arlington provides a good education on the cheap. However, if that district could spend at the same level as the richer districts, it could expend additionally between $18.7 million and $109.6 million each year.
According to Shapleigh, nine out of 10 Texas students benefit from Robin Hood. The plan recaptures money from 134 wealthy districts and distributes it to not-so-wealthy districts.Bernd said, "It's not the Robin Hood plan that I'm worried about -- it's the Sheriff of Nottingham," in a sly reference to legislators willing to play politics with school finances rather than act courageously.
For many politicians (including Gov. Rick Perry) who have promised voters not to raise taxes, Shapleigh's arguments expose the hollowness of their words. Unless the governor and other no-new-taxers have geese that lay golden eggs, the money needed to raise Texas from dead last among the 50 states in per capita general expenditures will need to come from taxes.
If Texas is to raise the average per-pupil expenditure from $6,850 to the national average of $7,463, more greenbacks are needed.
It's sure easy to spend other people's money.
UPDATE(4/9/2004 12:55pm)
Oppose all state income tax plans!
UPDATE(4/15/2004 2:57pm)
It's Income Tax Day. Read it and weep.
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It's funny. if you work out those percentages, the low income people are paying $1000 and the higher income people are paying $1500 on property taxes. The percentages only fool dumbasses.
Posted by: Matt K on November 11, 2003 08:15 AMmy understanding is:
1. the Texas constitution would require a vote on income tax.
2. the Tx. constitution would require 2/3 of income tax be returned as property tax relief.
3. 70% of Texans don't use the public school system. the 30% that do can't vote yet.
4. higher levels of education led to higher incomes and a more dynamic and powerful economy.
5. lower levels of education lead to greater crime, DISEASE, poverty, hunger and misery.
6.schools are cheaper to maintain than hospitals prisons etc.**
7. I don't like your car on the road i paid for (with my taxes) and ride my bicycle on.
THE SOCIAL CONTRACT !! GET IT !!!
we can disagree where the contract begins and ends, but western civilization for the past 200 years has agreed it includes public education.
Question the authority of government and its power- not its necessity. Liberia is a god awful place to live. nor would I like to live in the united states of IBM.
Mark
Mr. Nixon, you are correct about amending the Texas Constitution, but I disagree on your later points.
If possible, I'd like to see how you came to the conclusion in #3 and what the two asterisks mean at the end of #6.
Regarding numbers 4 and 5, I don't doubt that at all. Those two combined make up the reason why I said in my original post, "A good, early education is important for anyone wanting to get anywhere with their life."
Number 7 may have been stated in sarcasm, but it rings true with me in principle. You SHOULDN'T have to pay for the transportation solutions of others and I SHOULDN'T have to benefit from that resource theft. I doubt you meant to take it this far, but your statement is a major plank in my support for road privitization.
As for the remainder of your comment, it's anchored by several fallacies: Appeals to Common Practice & Tradition and a combination of Straw Man & False Dilemma.
You'll have to do better than saying "humans have done it this way for 200 years" to argue we should be forced to pay for the education of others. And you'll have to stop using clichéd and cynical examples of what you think my ideal nation would be like in order to attack my arguement. I advocate neither a violent and lawless anarchy nor a facist corporate state.
Posted by: Drizz on December 2, 2003 06:48 PMThank you for your well tempered and thoghtful response. You are absolutely right my arguemnts are based on common practice, however I certainly didn't mean to set up a straw man. (Thank god I took that Philosophy course I knew what you were talking about)
I fundamentally believe there are three major institutions which would wish to control my life.Industry, Religion, and Government.
Our Constitution doesn't allow the government to interfere with religion. Industry it seems (history from the dawn of the industrial age and child labor to Flint MI to disposable undocumented workers in meat packing plants, to Ken Lay and Andrew Fastow) will do exactly what it pleases and (supposedly) I control the government. If I do control the government, I want it to encourage (mandate) ethical behavior in the business community. This is why I would call myself a democratic socialist. BUT as you seem to be able to think out side of labels (even if you despise my politics)tell me ... in the libertarian view what is that instituion that balances the power of capital? And in our own current system what institution ought to act as a governor (old word for brake) to the power of Religous Right kooks who would regulate what I smoke , drink, eat and say? not to mention worship, Allah forbid!
I'm sorry I digress. I'm presenting Shapleigh's plan to my public speaking class tomorrow and I like it not in the least for the opportunity it would provide for our citizens to think about what government is or should be. However we would have to schedule the election before the May sweeps, and spring training and after the Super Bowl and the death of Brittany Spears or what ever titallating teeny booper of the moment. You know in Cuba, Fidel can speak for 3 hours and people listen.** the asterisk indicates Icannot site sources but I believe I heard something to this effect somewhere sometime.
Mark
If by "power of capital" you mean "power of business," then the answer is simple. Businesses are nothing without customers and consumers of their goods and services. If a business cannot please it's customer base, it cannot survive. Conversely, if a business cannot enlarge it's revenue (done in large part by increasing the customers it serves), it stagnates. Since most businesses cannot readily choose it's customers, it must deal with the prospect of the general public using it's goods and services. Therefore, in general, businesses must appeal to a wide range of beliefs, convictions, and ethics in order to do business.
The people act as the balance with business. It's a relationship that can only exist as long as it's mutually beneficial. If you dislike how Company A treats you, the environment, or it's bathrooms...you can try Company B, thereby handing your business over to a seperate company. If the problems are not corrected and they irritate enough people, then the shift in business becomes threatening. This is why boycotts are a legitimate tool for free people to use against those they disagree with.
Your second question is even easier to answer. I want no part of religion (including the Religious Right) involved in government. I don't want any government, religious-influence or not, telling what and where I can smoke, drink, eat, and say. In the libertarian society I envision, the mechanisms for regulating personal behavior like that wouldn't even exist; the government agencies currently tasked with telling us how to live our lives wouldn't exist and neither would the state power to create such entities. In addition, the society I envision would have a crystal clear founding document stating individual freedom is more important and precious than collective security, health, and prosperity. Without individual liberty, the "collective" cannot have any of the aforementioned goals.
I lack the time to seriously engage you on your earlier point about industry & government control. I'll return later tonight and hopefully will be able to respond.
Posted by: Drizz on December 3, 2003 04:04 PMDreams are made to be destroyed. Nightmares are forever.
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