August 01, 2003
The 1st Amendment Does Not Go Too Far!

[Updates below.]

Survey: Support for First Amendment Up

Support for the First Amendment is on the rise and many Americans want more information about how the government is fighting the war on terrorism, a survey released Friday shows.

The nationwide telephone poll of 1,000 adults found that 19 percent of respondents strongly agreed that the First Amendment goes too far in the rights it guarantees. That number was down sharply from the 41 percent found on last year's survey, conducted nine months after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.


Almost twenty percent feel the First Amendment feels it is too strong? Are these people aware of the importance freedom of speech, church-state seperation, freedom of the press, freedom of assemby, and freedom to petition the government?! Do they not care about their rights, or is this just a passing fad as the article indicates? More fickle people.
Nearly half of those questioned believed they had too little access to information about the government's war on terrorism, according to the annual survey commissioned by the Nashville-based First Amendment Center and American Journalism Review magazine.

I agree with the sentiment, especially concerning some critical things like intelligence failures.
A majority of respondents said the consolidation of media ownership decreases both the range and quality of information they receive. Congress is in the process of repealing a Federal Communications Commission decision that would relax media ownership rules.

If good information is what you seek, then you must identify the sources of bad information and steer around them. If a variety of views and ideas is what you seek, then you must simply expend more effort to find them.
"Most journalists I know believe they are doing an objective and autonomous job of reporting, but by overwhelming numbers Americans view that content being tainted by corporate ownership," he said. "That's a real wake-up call for the news business."

Collective ownership of property is always a risky thing.
The survey also criticized the news media's performance in other areas. Nearly half of respondents said America has too much press freedom and more than a third said the media has been too aggressive in asking questions during the war on terrorism.

"The public clearly wants more information on the war on terror and yet they don't entirely trust the news media to deliver it to them," Paulson said.


THIS MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. Either the Paulson quote is misplaced or he didn't understand the question he was asked. If the poll numbers show the respondents believe the press has "too much freedom" and is "too aggressive" in asking questions...then how does that translate into the public thinking the media needs improvement in news delivery? If the public thinks the media has too much freedom, then how the hell is the media supposed to do it's job and improve itself? Become more timid? Stop asking questions? Someone either really fucked up the article or the results demonstrate the general contradictory nature of the public. Regardless, this doesn't make sense.
The survey found that 68 percent of people felt the inclusion of "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance did not violate the Constitutional principle of separation of church and state.

More willing stupidity. The fundamental question all people must face at some point is whether or not they believe in Gawd. Not any specific Gawd, but just whether they believe in one, many, or none. It's the fork in the intellectual road: faith in this or faith in this? To have those words in the Pledge of Allegiance is to have that choice made for us...to establish then and there that there is a Gawd and that Gawd has certain qualities. For example:

  • It is concerned with human life.
  • It protects those who merit protection.
  • It has power that extends beyond human ability.

    It explicitly establishes a theocracy and I don't mean that as hyperbole. If the nation is "under God" then the nation, it's laws, and it's citizens are also "under God" as well, meaning we are subservient to It and lesser than It. Arguements that the insertion is a symbolic gesture miss the point entirely. The government has NO RIGHT to establish these things and certainly NO RIGHT to try and force people to follow them and recite them.

    Argh.

    UPDATE 2/1/2005 8:45am
    The nation continues its downward spiral into titanic stupidity: Student Respect for the First Amendment is Dropping?



    Posted by Drizzten at August 01, 2003 07:46 AM
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    You oppose that bit of the pledge. You must a be a TERRORIST!!!

    I agree on that. And no, the media thing makes no sense, but since when has the public ever known what the hell they were talking about?

    Posted by: APF on August 2, 2003 12:09 AM

    "The public clearly wants more information on the war on terror and yet they don't entirely trust the news media to deliver it to them"

    I dunno Drizz, seems pretty clear to me. People want unbiased facts, _actual_ reporting, not journalisim.

    Many Americans are tired of tuning into the evening news to discover that the "networks" think that we, as a nation _asked_ for 9/11 to happen.

    Hell, the majority of the network news stations, and major newspapers have practically been run by liberals for the last thirty years. So, yeah, I agree with the statement. People don't trust the news media to deliver accurate, un-biased, factual reporting.

    Most news venues are more of an op-ed than a report of the facts.

    Posted by: Grim on August 2, 2003 12:42 AM

    Oh god, not the Liberal Media Conspiracy thing again...

    Posted by: APF on August 2, 2003 03:37 PM

    Grim, perhaps it makes some sense, but my angle was that how could the public first say they want more new information and then say the press has too much freedom and ask questions too aggressively? That's what blew my top.

    APF, my mini-take on the political/philosophical bias in the media (and all human institutions have it) is that it leans towards the left. It isn't a deliberate conspiracy by any honest appraisal. But examine the way things are reported using a standard of individual rights (roughly speaking, "the right") vs. collective rights (roughly speaking, "the left") and the result is overwhelmingly towards the left side of the spectrum.

    I do wish the there was a news outlet whose sole defining purpose is complete factual objectivity. The wire services (AP, Reuters, Bloomberg, UPI, etc.) try to do this but fail regularly. I want to know what happened, who was involved, when and where the event occured, and a historical context. The last part is the one the media fails the most often on, in my opinion.

    Posted by: Drizz on August 2, 2003 08:55 PM

    Does every pledge of allegiance establish a religion -- the worship of government? As a Libertarian, and an attorney too, I am fascinated by the Pledge of Allegiance case before the U.S. Supreme Court. As a pro bono service, I help educate the public about the litigation.

    Few people know that if they pledge allegiance to the flag, then they recite a pledge written by a self-proclaimed socialist in the U.S. nationalism movement, to promote socialism in the most socialistic institution -government schools.

    Few people know that the original salute to the flag was like the horrid National Socialist German Workers' Party salute and predated it. (photos at http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge2.html).

    The pledge was authored in 1892 by Francis Bellamy, first cousin and follower of the socialist author Edward Bellamy. Edward Bellamy's futuristic novel, "Looking Backward," (1888) described life in the year 2000. It described a totalitarian society where private trade is outlawed, where all men are in an "industrial army," and where the monolithic government school is part of the "industrial army" system. It was portrayed as utopia.

    As strange as it may seem, the totalitarian ideas that inspired the pledge's author resulted in mass atrocities worldwide.

    Posted by: RexCurry.net on April 11, 2004 08:39 AM
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