Dammit. I wish I could say that the same thing wouldn't happen in San Antonio, but it's likely that it will. I've never wanted a cigarette more in my life. It's time to take up smoking!

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I fucking can't stand the anti-smoking nazis. Sorry about the law passing, it'll be here next.

Love the wallpaper, Grim. And thanks for the blogroll and sympathy.

First asbestos, then lead paint, now cigarettes?! where will they stop!

Guys, what can I say? You get used to it. Bars and restaurants out here in California have been smoke-free for a few years now. Business hasn't fallen off because of it, people still eat and drink as much as ever. The tide is against you on this one, right or wrong. I'm a cigar smoker, so I've been used to "no" for a much longer time, although there was that bright little moment about 5 years ago when there was a rash of cigar-smoking clubs. Ah, the memories.

Hi is David and Yeda in Ireland this is an essay that might give you some inspiration about the philosophical meanings of the lord of the rings if you like the story you will love this

+++ONE RING TO KEEP THEM IN THE DARK++++
Smoking a self-destructive habit, which started at some point in time in the Americas it just seems crazy when you think about it philosophically its an act violence on the self body & sole masochism to use the correct phrase it’s the hole in the bucket of your sole. Anybody who has given up will now how hard it is but how better you feel .I can only compare it to breaking free from a prisoner of war camp other smokers are the guards and all around. So to stay on top you keep fit which is a normal thing in its self
Smoking has nothing to offer society I and a lot of people believe it has a very bad effect on the collective consciousness and is a corner stone of the problems of the world effecting the perceptions of people themselves its like a blinker for the hole of humanity back hole for spirit a destroyer or vacuum of loves energy the it keeps us humanity from attaining holiness 100%spiritual awareness
The method I used to stop a pilgrimage the Camino Santiago de Compostela in Spain it took 36 days in total from the Pyrenees to Finisterra where you burn a set of clothes at the end. It’s a very powerful thing to do psychologically & spiritually the death of the old and start of the new. As for smoking I now have a massive immunity against them a buffer zone. But it’s not just the burning of a set of clothes the whole pilgrimage you are becoming more aware spiritually awoken other pilgrims may smoke but the tone is always down around where they are. With giving up smoking you have to break many psychological links like the link with food alcohol its like cutting out badges out of your physique your ego out of your fore conscience. Smoking keeps you from harmonising with your true spiritual self your inner child when your in harmony with yourself your dreams don’t seem so alien and you can decode them more easily. The Camino is a spiritual thing Camino means way and ultimately you find a truer way a better course and leave a lot of chains behind the only thing is its hard coming back into the horrible reality that exists in the world now .I personally believe two major things keep the world this way commercial separation separate commercial identities in competition with each other in other words inharmonious systems and the other is lack of respect for life not enough love and people in the dark with the bad systems being part of the problem not part of the solution a taker rather than a giver a world of givers is better than a world takers a simple philosophy.
I had a thought on the pilgrimage for the possible reason smoking started, something like that just doesn’t just happen for no reason. Smoking causes a spiritual vacuum. So possibly people like Columbus and others felt a draw over the ocean. The shamans of the Americas smoked because they thought it brought them closer to god. Well the Europeans who came over who had something the thing that made Europe great the Gospel. I also have a theory why smoking was allowed to continue even grow it was sort of like a blinker for the hole of humanity so the day when it ceased worldwide would be the day when humanity fully awoke.
Some countries have taken positive steps but the best way to deal with it is to treat it for what it is an illness a spiritual illness banning smoking from the work place & all public places is good but it does not stop it .It has to stop growing so dependent smokers should get a state card and only with this card can you buy cigarettes or you have to get a prescription for them after doing a medical until you attempt or the cut off point for a national or international effort to stop all at once stopping all production and distribution limiting sale to pharmacies. All the financial gain made from selling cigarettes should go back into structured government EU &international plans for getting people well if everybody gave up at the same time It would make so much easer This would have to be planned but there is no reason this can’t happen before Halloween or all saints day by the least? Doctors could prescribe pilgrimages something like the Camino a spiritual journey say on the Wicklow Leister way, which starts in Marley Park.
Health groups could provide a structure along the way accommodation food medical care ect they could study the Camino Santiago de Compostela in Spain that pilgrimage is about 1500 years old its symbol is the escallop shell. It depends on how dynamic the government or governments are. First the extra tax on the smokes would help doubling the price to really get the message home
Groups would see injustice and their power to change popular culture would come more into the light Our media would reflect the change from a bad news to good news Terror Terrorism would be a thing of the past and loose its grip love would prevail people would rise above the past hate fear anger all the things of the past Perfect systems would come into place
Rubbish would be a thing of the past. The EU would become the UE united earth or union of earth all pockets of hell on Earth would be removed the military would become a disaster reaction force the gun would be retired violence would end
People of different nationalities &cultures would not be looked at in a fearful way .the wealth gap would harmonise International Treaties could be passed like the formation of a new international Language a mixture of Chinese English Spanish Indian Islamic and African languages. To help bring the world together everybody in the world could communicate to each other you would then only need two languages your native language &the international one.
The pillars of our new world order would be Liberty & Responsibility. New trading methods could be put in place one where there is no inflation. Say a kilo of rice is one Earth credit or a kilo of wheat all separate commercial identities would merge into national services, food service, health services manufacturing services each nation would have a quota for trade 50% produce for home consumption 50% for export
How we can start is by sending this message to as many people as you can to Governments to translate it into the languages of the various countries this will reach the media public fingers the consciousness collective the world has the perfect medium in the internet just send it to everyone in your mail box photocopy it and give it to people we will all be part of this could reach a million people before next month its up to You

Smoking kills. If you are against banning smoking, then you support murder. Government has an obligation to protect the health, safety and welfare of all of the people. That means banning killer tobacco smoke. If you still don't get it, you mus t be a smoker and/or working for the tobacco folks.

Clever "flame" there, Phlogistic.

Well that has to be about the most ignorant comment yet, Phlogistic. SMOKE KILLS!!! Get a damn clue! Everything in this world kills. Our planet is filled with so much radio waves, magnetic fields, bad air, and undrinkable water that we all will die of some type of cancer. It used to be you won the death lotto if you got cancer. Now days you win the Billion to one odds lotto, if you don't get it. Those who don't, died before they did.

They are so many more things to worry about than someone smoking in a Bar or Club. You don't see a ban on motor vehicles for the noxious gasses they spew out into our air, or a ban on all electronics for creating magnetic fields that fry our brain slowly everyday. The health issues put forth by nutsacks like you about smoking is ill comparison to what's really out there. Wake Up!

I say, if you don't like the smoke, than go to a different BAR! The government can not go around telling us what we can and can not do on all things in life. Last I checked we were a free society. Just because a small handful of non-smokers want to shape the world to suit them, doesn't mean the rest of us have to suffer for their blatant stupidity. The one thing I wish our government would pass is a license to procreate, so morons like you and everyone else who just want to lay down and take in the rear by our governing body, can not create more stupid people. It's obvious we have enough of them.

Look, I'm not a smoker either, but I have enough sense to know that if I don't want to deal with the smoke, I have the choice to go somewhere else. It all comes down to choices. You can not just take that away because of a few who cry. You can not tell a business owner how they need to run there establishment. If they choose to make their business non-smoking great!, but let it be their choice. Otherwise, we might as well go back to prohibition! or let the few in power do the thinking for us all! hmmm... isn't that the ideal we fought so hard against, when we founded our country?! It's called repression. Funny how we so quickly mimic those of whom we so desperately don't want to be like.

Hey Drizz, long time no talky.

I'd completely forgotten all about this thread until I just noticed it in my server logs. So, Phlogistic says that smoking kills. Hmm, that's very interesting.

So, smoking kills. What's the average life expectancy of a smoker? 60? 65? That's pretty close to the average longevity of a non-smoker, isn't it? Wasn't the oldest living man in America a smoker? What are the chances?

Well, I guess you could get into all of the nasty side-effects that smoking causes, like cancer, COPD, pleurisy and emphysema, but then you'd have to take into consideration the large percentage of people who also suffer from these diseases that have never smoked at all.

You have no more right to smoke-free air than I have to smoke a pack of camels. You don't like smoke, big deal, I don't like to hear namby-pamby, crybaby sissies giving me a hard time every time I spark one off.