I take your point, mate - impeccable logic.

But perhaps consistency isn't everything?

I wouldn't say I'm a stickler for consistency, but I take someone more seriously when they are.

It means the principles they base their actions on matter to them enough that they'll apply them to all they see. For example, as a capitalist, I support reducing the regulatory burden on businesses. One of the reasons is that the state should not interfere in a free market. However, I also have to support the elimination of corporate welfare and import/export controls on goods and services through the US's borders because they (and so many others) also constitute government interference.

I remain as consistent as possible with my beliefs, and if someone really has principles they also should remain consistent. Otherwise, they don't actually hold those beliefs as "prinicples." Principles are more fundamental than the shifting sands of pragmatism or public opinion.

But I'm not holding my breath for consistency to flourish across the world at the demands of this blog. ;-)

I have a feeling Utah dosen't grasp simple physics and ballistics. A rifle of any caliber, firing a live round will create a certain amount of kick, obviously due to the preassure created behind the bullet. A blank will have a very wek, or with certain rifles, no kick. The person with the blank will know it.

I was wondering if Troy Kell was executed, I can't find anything recent on him....

DID THEY EXECUTED TROY KELL ALREADY

I came to the sight also to find out whether Troy Kell had been executed. Some of the comments I heard amazed me. While I believe that murder is murder whether it's commited by a person or a state, never has a crime made me question that theory as the brutal and unhuman murder of Lonnie Blackmon. No one deserves to die like that. I do however think there are more adiquate punishments than the death penalty and that the death penalty lets them off too easy. How bout leaving Troy Kell in a room with the Blackmon family for five minutes before the guards do anything.

As a response to Nikki who wrote 5 min. with Blackmon's family is better punishment, you should really reconsider. In my opinion the only way you can beat this man up is with a gun,the man is made of steel with the heart for a fight, its scary! But the truth is that if you have any idea of maximum security prison life, you would know that if Kell didnt strike first Blackmon might have been the one this story would be about! Who knows maybe less brutal, but i doubt it!! Kell probably did what he had to do to survive in prison, im betting that Blackmon is no innocent defensless little kid.

I just watched the story about prison life and Troy Kell, and I also wanted to know if he was executed yet. I think nobody should kill another and I understand that Troy had a bad life, but he choose that road. Prisons should do more also to make sure people are safe, some people want to change and get out of prison and lead a good life, In the mean time they life a life nobody knows unless you walked in their shoes. But does anyone know for sure if Troy was executed??

The only execution date Troy Kell has ever had was June 28 2003. He was given a stay of execution at that time. No other execution date has been set since.

i've seen the film of the murder in prison committed by try kell, it was on TV yesterday. I couldn't explain my feelings... It was so hard to think for myself: "this is no fiction, this is no movie, this is real! real life, real blood, real death!"
and real no action from the gards.... just watching, waitting....
i'd like to know about what happened concernng his execution (i can't find any informations on the net... How come? why can we read about all the past three years execution and the life of these guys but strictly nothing about troy? Is there something that needs to be hidden...???)
thanx to let me know.... if you know...

I was taking law school courses and had the opportunity to talk with Troy. I was more interested in how he came to be. The crime before the crime. I believe he had intended to protect his long-time friend, the result was murder (not so sure intentionally. At 18, many troubled/lost kids don't care much about anything and grow cold and enter darkness. He declined the 2nd degree murder and pleaded Not Guilty. As a result he received life without parole. In prison, the boy who could of been saved and reformed(as the female friend was)end up colder, darker, and left with nothing to lose. Killing again was a mentality, a way of life. Nothing abnormal in prison. He suggested I read The Hothouse, Life in Levinworth Prison to explain his life. He also stated he had read A Catcher in The Rye. This to me was a glimpse of the person Troy could of been, would of been, if only.
Parents, teachers, and soceity in general is better able to reach out to adolescents who are illustrating warning signs. This is an example of a boy who was unnoticed and became a killer.

Maybe I don't write it all right, because I don't speak and write English. Beacause I come from Holland.
But I saw yesterday a documentary about Troy Kell on tv, and I was deeply shocked by it. But I don't think that death penalty is a solution. Troy kell doesn't get punished an off by death, to tell the truth i think it's an easy way out for the actions he did. Put him on bread and water in a cell from 1 by 1 the rest of his life and keep him as long living as possible.
In Holland we doen't have the death penalty.

But what also shocked me is that it's possible in a maximum secured prisson to kill someone as easy as he and Daniels did.

And what I didn't saw on the documentary is what the government did after his first killing, didn't they do something about his sick mind, He was only a kid after the first killing, I don't aprove his actions NOT AT ALL, but if they gave him some help (shrink) they could occur the killing in prisson.

Sorry if I shocked some people by my way of thinking but I'm against death penalty. In all times.
Sorry.

I totally agree, I believe that the death penalty should never ever be used, but more so I agree with your comment about the help that Kell failed to recieve. I also live in Holland and I know that if you commit such a crime you would most certainly get TBS or at least some form of psychiatric help to assertain whether or not you are a danger to society, and what needs to be done to prevent you from becoming a repeat offender.
How is it possible that such a horrific crime such as the stabbing of Lonnie Blackmon could occur in a maximum security prison under the noses of the guards? What a joke the american prison system must be.....

we all die. it dont mather.

I just saw the same documentary ("Gladiator Days - Anatomy of a Prison Murder") as the rest of you guys.

What appalled me the most was that it showed what a complete FAILURE the US legal system is! And it showed what a failure the prison system is in particular.

First of all, it is - in my opinion - a great crime against humanity to sentence an 18-year-old to life in prison with parole. No matter his crime it is a far greater crime to give him such a sentence.

That brings me to the second part. Some of you write that it is "normal" to kill each other in prison. This really shows what awful prisons then USA has. People are treated like animals and so, animals they become. You should treat people with respect always - particularly when they are weak, as prisoners are! You should let them wear normal clothes and let them spend time on usefull stuff like education or anger management classes. Instead the US lock people up and treat them awful.

As for the death penalty it is just another way of killing. All killing is wrong, with the death penalty, the government is the murderer, and so is the person who supports.

I am from Denmark.

Is Troy Kell dead??

I am a friend of Troy Kell and we correspond on a regular bases.
He is still alive and his attorney is appealing in court for him.
No new execution date has been set. For all I know it could take years before this appeal has reached the point where it is useless. The a judge will set a new date, unless Troy asks for his death warrant like he did in april 2003. The judge granted his wish and set the date for june 28 2003. In the last minute Troy changed his mind and appealed against it which was granted and the execution was stayed.
He now has a new laywer and is appealing again.
He doesn't deserve to die. Other people have done worse things than Troy. If Lonnie Blackman was white, nobody would loose any sleep about this. Just because he was black, they made a racial issue out of it, it got blown out of proportions and Troy was sentenced to death which is so unfair.
I hope with all my heart this his appeal will be succesfull and maybe one judge has enough courage and guts to change the verdict here.

I totally agree with you Karen. If he were white everything would be different. I am also from Holland and I saw the documentary and I cant tell you how much it affected me. It´s so unfair that they would want to execute him when he has never had the chance to live a normal life. I think Troy Kell is not a horrible person, he´s just a man protecting himself and the people he loves. Of course killing someone is horrible, but death row is not the answer. After the night I saw the documentary I searched the internet to find out whether he was still alive or not. I was so glad the execution in 2003 didn´t happen. Im very happy to hear that he has a new lawyer and that he is appealing against death penalty. and I wish I could do something about it but unfortunately i cant. It might be a little stupid to say this but Troy Kell is the only murderer who I ever respected. Seeing this documentary changed my point of view and I am so glad that it will take at least a few years before the decisionwill be made. I hope they will treat him right in prison and that they´ll give him another chance. When I heard him speaking on TV, I only thouhgt: this guy doesnt belong in prison. I dont´even know why I just had the feeling....Your so lucky karen that u can get in touch with him I hope you´ll let him know that there are many people supporting him, both in the US and in Europe..

COME ON.... Did we see the same program? He killed that man in cold blood. He was proud of it afterwards. It made him high. I still think about how horrible it was to see him kill that other man. I have never seen something that effektet me so much. I don't give a flying fuck, what his colour was.

I can see that Troy has had a bad life, and that some of the answer lies there. But honestely, we would all be in danger if all people with at bad childhood does what he has done.

I have watched the documentary repeatedly, and have thought whole heartedly on what was said throughout the story. I believe Troy was a victim of our society and should not have been shuned in such away that it would forever change his persona. I believe that in the killing of Mr cotton Troy was taking justice into his own hands.In the muder of Mr Blackmon lets not kid ourselves here, they were in a maximum prison for a reason . So Mr Blackmon was not as inocent as people have made him to be. Did he deserve to die in such a violent way,I dont think so , but in prison you have to adapt and over come,kill or be killed,basic laws of the jungle . In this case a concrete jungle.Once again Iam not siding for Troy in any way I am just stating that in some countries society is based on the way they treat there prisoners, in our country society itself is failing.

I cannot believe some of the postings on this website. I'm not going to go into a lot of detail because I am just appauled by the words on this site. Troy stabbed the buy 67 TIMES!!! YES 67!! He deserves everything that he gets. Some keep pointing out that Lonnie was in a maximum security prison and maybe deserved to die anyway....but Troy does not?? Makes no sense to me. I do however, agree with others that the death penalty doesn't really give them the true punishment that they need. He took a person's life, it doesn't matter whose it was, it was a life and that is all that matters.

Someone getting stabbed 67 times is over kill. The one doing the stabbing needs to feel the shank going into his head and feel HIS head raising off the floor when the shank is pulled out. All of you that are trying to focus on racial or whether or not the death penalty is just, put yourself in the victim's place and see if you can FEEL those 67 different stab wounds puncturing YOUR body. Or place one of YOUR sisters or brothers in his place getting stabbed and see if you still feel the same

MY PERSONAL OPINION,I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TAKING THE SYSTEM SO LONG TO KILL THIS FUCKEN ANIMAL HE WAS 18 WHEN HE TOOK SOMEONES LIFE HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING,AND IN CASE HE DIDN'T ALL THOSE YEARS IN PRISON SHOULD OF TAUGHT HIM TO BE A BETTER MEN BUT INSTEAD HE KILLS A BLACK MEN TO FEEL PROUD OF BEING WHITE IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE VIDEO GOOD FOR YOU CAUSE THOSE TWO FUCKEN COWARDS WILL MAKE YOU AGREE WITH THE DEATH PENALTY DIE MUTHAFUCKERS.....

I was also impressed by the Documentairy, im also from Holland :)
Im not a shrink. I believe in the symbols of life.
You may interpratate many things in different ways, but once you this language its easy to see the signs. What i think what its about this man, and what makes him touch others (in his 'charismatic' way)has allot to do whit how we are inside and the world of today. Look at the world today... I think life in prison reflects life outside in a blown up way...its not so much different but a 1000 times more terrible. So what this man is about stands for so many other stories in this world.

I think he has no selfrespect. No love for himself: I believe murering someone stands for murdering youreself. Its a metafor!
The argument Troy hold for his actions and what he says he stands for (among other things) is to be a seperatist. In his explainaition its a little different than to be a rasist/fascist but its what his tattoos also express.
Now let me explain something wich xenofobia (racial hate)stands for/ reflects: "Leading a dubbel life....The little Doe who is afraid, in the apearence of a Lion. Feeling frustrated, intangled. Pushed aside, ore thinking others pushing him away from the hood. Feeling hurt,abandoned,sad,lonely,powerless,not loved, infirior... For this reason as a reaction, he will supress ore hurt the once that feel just like him: the supressed and neglegted, the minority . The underdog. Its an expresion of fear and POWERLESNESS. Inside he feels threathned. Scared. But what scares him the most is his own emotions, his fears: The little soft child that's inside of all of us, asking for atension and love, asking to be spontanious, free .... but he is hard for himslef. No self-love. Its an expression of SELFHATE. Why is he hating himself so much? Was it education: Pointed at ambition and acheavement, to come clean and strong for the outside world, but having to miss the most beautifull feeling: LOVE. Feeling handicapt, never good and strong enough. Needing to find 'Self-fastening'around himself; roarring as a lion, so called fighting for an ideal ... he is destructively finding its way.
If only he can proove that he is a real Man, than he feels satisfied.
Actualy because he strangles himslef with his own mask, he wants to take away the freedom of others to be themselfs.

"The earth belongs to all of us. Great is he who finds his own goodness.
Give youreslef the Love and the attension you deserve and need so much, so in return it wil be fruitfull to the world outside you."

Good luck to you Troy (and all the other Troy's out there...!)

Troy was not a product of an uncaring society. In fact, he was a product of abuse from his father. I know, because I witnessed it as we grew up together. Troy was full of issues that couldn't be seen by professionals, because he hid his problems, as did I. If Troy were to say anything back then, his dad would've got wind of it and beat him severely.
Troy's father groomed him to become a killer. Yet I feel bad for saying so, because he still adores the man.
I am ashamed of myself for not helping Troy when I moved out on my own, because, unlike the so-called "professionals", I did see it coming.
Every fight, every arguement, got worse as we grew older. He hurt inside and even though his rage was growing more and more vicious, he also had the biggest heart of anyone I knew.
Although, I wasn't there when he killed his first person, I can tell you what his face looked like a split second before he pulled the trigger. Troy's look was always the same, even if the results got worse.
Troy simply went into a defensive mode that could not be shut down until the threat (real, or percieved) was gone. If Troy thought someone might be a threat, he would find that person and not wait for them to come to him.
I believe that is because his dad would be gone for extended times and beat Troy when he got back for things Troy did while his father was gone.
Troy will always be my friend, but I blame his dad for things that Troy never will.
Because of him, I will never get to do even the simplest of things, like invite Troy on a fishing trip.

Hi I'm Nicky and I'm from Holland also. I agree that Troy Kell did some horrible things, but what drove him there? Karen Beishuizen maybe you can help me get in touch with Troy???
I think that when he commited his first murder and got help from someone who could really make a differance, he'd have never commited another murder. And for the people who feel sorry for Lonnie Blackmon... come on he was in prison for armed robbery. So he wasn't a saint either. According to some of you it's wrong that he died, but isn't that the same thing what were doing to Troy Kell right now. So it's okay when Troy dies but everyone was in tears when Lonnie Blackmon was killed.

Nicky

I saw the documentary about Troy Kell and I must say that this man is a is a true coward. while he plays the tough guy role to the camera let's look at his actions. He kills a man in cold blood along with his buddy and girlfriend with a gun and then this coward turns around and kills another man with his friend by stabbing him to death.... Now it's his turn to ante up and what does he do file an appeal on his sentence. This made caused death without remorse then come along these bleeding heart liberals "Please don't excute him" and "Executions are wrong".... What about the victims rights? What about their families' loss? How come these bleeding heart liberals pities the assailiant "poor little feelings".... I say don't screw around get it overwith, Troy Kell shouldn't have an appeallate process because he IS guilty... Too many times mostly females fall in love with these pretty boy killers and seek sympathy for them because of their lonliness.... Get a man worth something. Like the woman from Holland she thinks because a guy is in prison for armed robbery his death is meaningless; however what she fails to understand Troy Kell is a coward rabid dog that shouldn't be wasting the tax payer's money. He is guilty, guilty guilty. With women like this raising children it is no wonder society has so many deviates because of these weak desparate women. If Troy Kell is truly sorry then surrender his life RIGHT NOW by some form of execution. Yeah, yeah then again some people will say what sense does this make because the dead are already dead and they can't come back.... Well let me point this out Troy Kell will be dead also that another person can die by his actions.

I watched the show. Yeah he seams like a semi-intelligent man. So what. Nicky when you fantasize about your dream date with Troy, think about the shank he's pulling out of that guy's head.

I KNOW TROY, I AM STAFF AT THE PRISON THIS OCCURRED, HE WAS OFFERED COUNSELING, HE REFUSED, HE "DIDN'T NEED IT" THIS IS AMERICA FOLKS, YOU CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN, THIS WAS THE MOST PREMEDITATED BLOODY THING EVER, STAFF STILL HAS DIFFICULTY YEARS LATER. TROY WAS EVIL INCARNATE, HE WAS OFFERRED EDUCATION AND REHABILITATION, NO TAKES. THIS IS A REALLY GOOD PRISON, WE HELP A LOT OF GUYS. TROY DIDN'T WANT HELP, HE WANTED TO BE TOUGH. BLACKMAN WAS NO ANGEL EITHER, ALTHOUGH NO ONE DESERVES TO DIE THIS WAY. WHAT TO DO WITH SOMEONE LIKE THIS, PAROLE HIM? NO HE WAS REALLY DANGEROUS AND CHARMING AND GOODLOOKING AND MANIPULATIVE AND YOU GIRLS WERE BUYING IT. SOME ONE LIKE THIS
CANNOT BE HOUSED EFFECTIVELY AND CANNOT BE RELEASED. THIS LEAVES DEATH

So Troy had a hard life and Lonnie was no angel... i have had a extremely horrid hard life....and? ok these guys are in maximum security prison for a reason BUT this Troy looked happy, cocky and high off doing what he did to Lonnie. As CASS says it clearly Troy has refused any and all type of help. The guy needs to be put to sleep. COME ON PEOPLE, HE FUCKING SHANKED HIM 67 TIMES!!! What a fucking animal! and don't give me this racial crap... white, black, pink, purple, green, clear... If Troy had done this to your brother you would be singing another tune.

Not to mention Blackmon was secured to his waist with cuffs,leaving him no way to protect himself.Plus his buddy holding him down.If thats not a coward ,I don't know what the definition would be?I had trouble sleeping the night I saw that,the unbelivable cruelty commited by him on a defenceless human being.He took away the only thing that mattered to Blackmon,his life.I bet Blackmon was begging for his life while Troy just kept stabbing till he could beg no more.Sad really sad, that Troy gets the option to beg for his life and gets it!

karen and jeanine! You two have to be the two most loneliest and stupid bitches on this fuckin planet. First of all this idiot kills another guy with the assist of his friend who is holding this guy down. Neither one of the dickless motherfuckers had cuffs on and Blackmon did. THEN, KELL has the fuckin nerve to try and appeal his death sentence which is also an indicator of being scaared to die like Blackmon did (again i'll say he was helpless). What's really gonna happen is something really bad is gonna happen to Kell or someone in his family sometime and probably soon. Then this piece of fuckin shit can either fuckin die and go to hell or suffer and remember what he did. So you two horny ass bitches that can only fantasize about your dream date I hope you get it along with a shank up you stinkin asses. Get back at me!

This is a message for CASS, staff member @ U.S.P - Draper Fac.
I read your comments posted April 30,2005 @ 1:00 p.m. and had a real good laugh at the lies that came out of your mouth. My boyfriend is housed in U1 with Troy Kell & we both know him very well. You said that Troy could not be housed effectively. Is your definition of housing effectively having the "goonsquad" beat-up, break the bones of an inmate while they are in handcuffs and then allow a "female" guard to lead them around completely naked by a leash?? You know about the "dog leashes" ya'll use in Draper, don't you CASS? And we both know the list goes on & on, don't we CASS? You also said that this is a really good prison & ya'll help alot of guys. How, by breaking their bones & humiliating them? And then the D.O.C wonders WHY an inmate is so mean. You people are completely clueless & way beyond sadistic. It is a crime to strip a prisoner down & lead him around by a leash in Iraq. A female soldier was just convicted for doing the same exact thing that ya'll do there in Utah. If the public really knew & cared about the cruel & sadistic things that the guards do to inmates, then there would be a slew of corrections officers going to prison. Which is where so many of them should already be. In so many cases, the only difference in the guards & the inmates is the uniform they wear!!

I just got done watchin him on HBO! All I have to say is SAD! This world is SAD! :( God help us all!

the prison system in usa is designed to be a revolving door at best.it has become a very lucrative and profitable industry.warehousing human biengs is big buissiness.like big buissiness it is corrupt and driven by power and greed.i have done time in califrnia and i can tell you first hand that even though us convicts did crimes and GOT CAUGHT,the treatment and general abuse at the hands of power tripping cos and gaurds is unjust and only perpetuates the problem.i understand the frustration felt by convicts because i lived it,and i dont know of the answer to this problem ,but i will say that even though a convict is guilty,he is still a person and should not be subject to abuses by fucked up staffmembers.as for troy,only god can truly judge,i do understand what he did and why,not that its right or wrong it just is...

I have watched the doc. many times and I hate to break it to some of you, if Blackmon would have been white the outcome would have been the same.Kell stabbed the man so many times he had to shake the blood off the blade! It looked to me like he stabbed him for a while , got tired, walked away and then went and stabbed him some more. It is a tradegy for all parties involed, but it is a prime example of our prison system today. They don't care, Blackmon is just another dead inmate.You will notice that they were commenting on what was happening as it was happening and yet it took them 5 minutes to come in and squash the situation. It looked to me like they really weren't interested in saving Blackmon's life or possibly too scared of Kell themselves to intervene. If the latter is the case then I would suggest another line of work because I am sure "dealing with murderers" is in the job description. Whether or not Troy Kell deserves the death penalty or not is really not the issue. Kell has not done anything other inmates have not done, he just happened to be caught on tape doing it. It amazes me that people are so interested in either saving this man or condemning him when we have predators in the free world preying upon our children. When will a child rapist/killer get the death penalty? I will be interested to see how many "anti-death penalty" people crusade for that person's life??

I just finished watching the troy kell documentary. I have mixed feelings about the entire thing. I have no idea what living with fear and intimidation can do to a man. I do not think it is reasonable to expect logic and fair fighting rules to be applied by these men who are living under these conditions. I believe these men are treated like animals by each other as well as by some of the staff, and no one should be surprised that they begin to behave accordingly. There are consequences for your actions, and rightfully so, but I do not know if I agree with what those consequences should be. I will pray for these men and I hope that others will do the same.

THAT IS HILARIOUS FEATHERWOOD, WE WOULD TOTALLY BE CALLED ON
THE CARPET IF THIS OCCURRED. DON'T BELIEVE IT, THE ACLU WOULD
BE ALL OVER THAT ONE

After reading over many of the comments on this site, i realize i am not the only one who was moved by what was seen on the doc. it is incredible how prison does almost everthing but provide rehabilition. Troy was a killer going in. But after several years had transformed into an ice cold killer with numerous mental health issues. As a young man watching this doc, i can only feel scared straight. i have been in trouble before, but have never been incarcerated. and to be totally honest i don't feel that i would ever be able to adapt to an environment such as the one seen on the show. it made me look at my life and feel more grateful for everthing than i probably ever have. but more importantly, it made me feel so good to be alive. The effect of this show is very theraputic. i feel with the right authoriztion this doc. should be shown to teenagers and young people who are inches away from throwing their entire life away.if troy dosen't get anything out of life, hopefully he knows i got something out of him.

if it hasn't happend already, i would really like to know when or if troy kell has been executed yet.

I JUST SAW THE TROY KELL STORY ON HBO. I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW T0 FEEL ABOUT THIS PERSON I HAVE A BROTHER THAT WAS PUT ON DEATH ROW AT AGE 18 AND WAS JUST COMMUTED TO LIFE IN PRISON WITHOUT THE CHANCE OF PAROLE. I THOUGHT I WAS AGAINST THE DEATH PENALTY BUT I THINK THIS MAN PLAYS ON THE INTELLIGENCE OF PEOPLE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I FEEL SORRY FOR HIM.I AM A BLACK FEMALE BUT I FEEL JUST BECAUSE RACE WAS INVOLVED DOESN'T MEAN HE SHOULD BE KILLED BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT. BUT THE WAY THIS MAN TOOK THIS MANS LIFE WAS AWFUL AND THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN COSIDERED.

I saw the doc and had a hard time falling to sleep that night. I understand that prison is a whole different world then anyone who has not been in one can imagine, but 67 TIMES!! The way it was set up, Blackmon still hand cuffed, the other guy holding his legs while tough guy troy get high with every stab wound is clear indication that kell is too dangerous for society, be that prison or civilon.

Karen I was Just wondering if there is anyway that us who are on Troys side could get a hold of him or write to him to let him know we are here for him, I believe 2 wrongs don't make it right Troy killed Blackmon thats one not counting what happened when he was 18 but yet if the gov. kills Troy that makes 2 and god is the one to judge not us, god decides the punishment, sure troy will have to be faced by god and everything he had done but let god do that not the death penalty. I also feel that the prison guards let it happen, they let Troy kill that man, just standing there and watching, thats what guards are for

I can't believe the dizzy bastards that are on "his side". The focus shouldn't be on the murder he commited in prison (the horrors of violece and rape I do believe ruin people) but on what got him there in the first place. These bullshit fantasies about protecting this broad are obsurd. He shot an unarmed man six times in the face. Where was the tough guy then? why didn't he just fight him? I'll consede a certain amount of respect for a guy especialy a white guy (other races out number and stick together more, excluding these sick white supremist fucks) If he had these iron balls back then Lonnie would still be alive. The true trajedy in American prisons is housing non-violent offenders with these animals who have zero chance of getting out, therefore nothing to lose, to be raped and tortured. It sadly all to often turns into a life sentence for these non-violent kids. It is now estimated that one in four inmates is HIV positive with 240,000 inmate rapes annualy. Get a life and look for good people

Oh yeah, when I said i respected him I meant because he said he went in there a man and wouldn't surcomb to what most in his position have to i.e sucking dick, doing laundry etc.. For a young white kid you would have to be one tough sonofabitch..I could never fathom what he has been through but i don't go around shooting people in the face either. And not even Troy himself blamed this shit on his upbringing..My father brought the belt, the fists or whatever but i still know right from wrong.Anyway thanks for letting me talk, just remember what happened in that prison is sick and disturbing but it is a way of life i'am thankful I'll never see, but wanting to be this guys buddy cause you saw him on the t.v makes me worry about alot of your guys wellbeing also. I think alot of you are nuttier than a squirrel turd. I'm out bitches

What a unique case. Raises a ton of questions and the dual personality that society seems to have today. As a 18 year old he kills a man for trying to lead a 15 year old friend into pornography. If the girl would have gone to authorities they would have thrown the guy under a prison. The killing was crazy but how did he get life without parole, the girl got life with possible parol. Guess that proves Las Vegas is really the sin city. Lets get for real there is not a white person today that is not forced to deny thier heratage. Imagine walking in a black part of town late on Friday night alone by yourself. Matter of fact go give it a try if you have the guts or stupidity. Now think that you are in that atmosphere 24 / 7. Either you punk out or stand up. Troy stood up. Lets face it the guy he killed was in prison had a violent history to both guards and inmates. Way I see it Troy got him before he got Troy. I support the death penalty but there is no way either of these killings would warant that. There must be 100,000 people that have comitted murders that are far most shocking and brutal. Way I see it Troy is just a sacrafice for the political correct...

The Hothouse, Life in Leavenworth. This book will explain a little how the corrupt bureaucrats control "inmates" in this country. The inmate you are so quick to judge is guilty of defending himself, and those he loves. In prison society you can end up in a situation where you either kill, or be killed. Isn't your government doing the same in isolated countries for oil right now. Blood money! The guards who control these prisons are worse than most of the inmates, these are not isolates made up stories. These guards are left to their own doing, usually taking out their own aggression on inmates they deem to be below themselves. To corrupt prison guards. Your abuse will not go unpunished. Those who have right on their side can do horrible things.

Troy Kell was a warrior who did what he had to do to survive in prison.

Who can say why Troy reacted violently to the situations he found himself presented with, nobody. No shrink, No Guard No
Friend from the 5th grade. What he did he has attempted to explain and seemed at at a loss for words himself. He should have been given a second chance. Not locked up for life. The other kid who was in for forging a check, now gone for life. What the Hell kind of Justice they handing out in this country. I hope that Troy's girl Sandy gets out soon.

Wow. Half of you people are fucking nuts. I don't give a crap if Troy Kell had a hard childhood. Plenty of us had hard childhoods, be it getting the shit beat out of us by our parents or whatever the case may be. I'm totally blown away by the attitude reflected in so many of the above comments, which seems to be "nobody's responsible for their own actions if they had a hard childhood." Is this some bizarre epidemic across America that I somehow missed out on? Hard childhoods don't excuse us from being responsible adults, folks.

Yeah, I totally believe that the prison system and large portions of the justice system are cruel and unjust. Does that excuse Kell's behavior? Not for an instant. At 18, any asshole knows that shooting someone in the face 6 times is wrong, and if they don't, they're criminally insane and need to be placed in a psychiatric facility. In one's late 20's, any asshole also knows that stabbing someone 67 times is wrong, not to mention cowardly and pathetic. Honestly, I don't believe in the death penalty, but I really hope Kell gets to spend the rest of his life in complete misery, rotting in prison.

I'm totally blown away that any of you would have sympathy for this piece of human waste-- particularly the women in the group. Have a little bit of self respect for fuck's sake, and realize that this is a sick, dangerous individual you want to contact.

Also, this case has nothing to do with race. I don't care what color anyone involved is. It's pretty fucking BASIC to realize that murder is wrong, no matter what color anyone is.

Finally, to the individual who referred to Troy Kell as a "warrior", you need to check your ethical code for a minute, dude. I'm inclined to believe that you're probably a racist in the same vein as Kell himself, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and just say that you need your head checked.

I think its funny how peoples "boyfriends" are locked up. Guess what..hes someone elses boyfriend now. Not like your not giving it up to someone else anyway, probably his boy.

You can be good looking, intelligient, articulate..and still a killer. Speculation on how and why things like this happen are find and dandy. However, the only real punishment for troy is have him suffer the same fate as his victims. Even then, the lives he stole are not returning.

Im also concerned with women who get their panties moist by idolizing murderers, rapists, etc. The amount of prison groupies is disturbing. You bitches need a slap. For real.

Hmmm..what a coincidence. That Jeanine cunt from holland is also a Nazi..wouldnt have guessed that

http://www.tightrope.cc/forum/archive/index.php/t-859.html

Yeah, stay in Holland..you Nazis have made such progress. Im scared. Freakin cavemen, all of you!

The comments I have read have absolutely amazed me. I know by reading a few of theses things that not many people have any concept of prison life. The fact remains that guards do provoke situations of violence, and they do instigate problems between inmates. If you have been locked up since 18 trs. old then that is the only life you know. It is a matter of survival. The institution has won. They got rid of T.K. and of Blockman.I know the system needs some type of reform. Unfortunately it is still the best system in the world. You just don't know who to believe. I have been on both sides of the fence...I know.

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I just watched the HBO documentary, and I'm not sure what to feel or think at this moment. Part of me is outraged at the actions of Troy Kell, but also outraged at our prison systems.

I don't think there is any denying that stabbing someone 67 times is horrible. It is a moot point as to why Blackmon was in the prison. Obviously, he was not a saint, as his brother said, but does that justify his death?

I work with drug addicts and alcoholics, and I sometimes have to visit the prison to interview people up for parole. It's a very different world once I pass through those metal detectors. When I wait for the doors to open so that I can walk through the court yard, I thank god my little name tag says, "Visitor." There is a different feel in there, one that I can't possibly hope to describe...but it's there. I have very limited interaction with the inmates and the correctional officers. I do sit in a room, alone, with about 3 or 4 inmates at time to explain to them about the program I work for. They are not handcuffed, and I have no prior information as to why they are incarcerated. Once I get to talking with them though, most of them are just looking for a way out of the jail, and once they get out, they run. That's just a fact, it's not my opinion, I've had it happen many times. Some people do not want to be helped, or rehabilitated, they just want to get out and do their own thing. There are some, however, who do seem to want to get out and help themselves, but I've not witnessed much success there because they are so used to being in jail, they don't know how to act outside.

A lot of people in this world have had childhoods that make me shiver to hear about. This does not mean, however, that they will become murderers, rapists, and the like. I believe there is something inherent in someone who commits such acts that they cannot control, something in their nature that causes them to deviate so far from the norm.

I don't feel bad for Troy Kell, as he seemed to accept that he must face the penalty for his actions. I know that the image of him stabbing Blackmon will live with me for a long, long time.

I too believe that Troy Kell could have been rehabilitated as well as his girlfriend. The justice system never came to protect them as children, so what did it expect in return? I have been on both sides of the judicial system, my own husband was murdered 25 years ago, by 6 persons high on drugs at the time. I requested that they not receive the death penalty. Though this country is the best each and every person should be treated as an individual and not placed on a scale of criteria. He acted in the only way he knew how to at the time he was a boy not even old enough to vote but old enough to go to a prison for adults when he was placed there. That is where he learned to perfect the skills of violence necessary to survive in prison.

I feel the same way many of you do about what an injustice it is to sentence an 18 year old boy to life in prison without the possibility of parol.

Regarding the second, prison, murder I can't beliuve there couldn't be aan appeal on the fact that it wouldn't have happened if Troy wasn't transfered to Utah in the first place. The documentary kind of grazes over the whole "prisoner exchange" thing. Why was Troy transfered from Nevada where to he knew people and maybe had a support system from family or friends to Utah?

Is it possible to send word to TK ? Or simply ridiculous to think that the “monster” might actually receive his mail. Condemning Troy is redundant, if one believes that the life he has lead is not punishment enough then try for a moment to imagine what it is like to live inside his head. Untreated mental illness is as good as dead, when you realize you have been forsaken and that you’re already in hell you can either wither away or take revenge, for having been born. (and cared for by a loving Supermax Corrections Corporation )
If TK ever does face the firing squad I hope it’s with his shit-eatin’ grin.

I have seen this story on Troy Kell and it did amaze me. I was shoked as to watch a man stab another man to death and see it first hand on video. It was hard to take at first because it wasn't a movie and they were actors it was a video of a real man stabbing to death a man who was unarmed, handcuffed, and who had no chance at defending himself.
I could care less is he was black or white or a fucking child rapist. Troy Kell took his life and did not give him a chance to fight back.
If that was your brother, father, son or anyone you knew you would be just as upset as his family was.
If you are going to have the balls to take someones life then have the balls to do it face to face and let him defend himself.
What Troy did was cowardly and unhuman! He is in prison for killing a man when he was young. He choose to take that man out and shoot him in the face. He also choose to kill while he was in prison.
My grandmother always told me to think before you do something because you will have to pay for your actions in the end whether good or bad.
Troy should of thought about what his actions would of cost him before he killed those two men.
No one in this world has any right to take someones life let alone take it and not let them defend themselfs at all.
You know when Michael Jackson was let go my first thought was someone is going to shoot that man. My friend asked me what I would do if that was my son and Michael got away free.

I told her straight up. If someone harmed my son they would not make it to trial. I would take them out right then and there and not even blink. An adult raping or molesting a child that can not defend for themselves is worth killing.

She said then what if they convicted you and you were on death row.

I told her if I took someones life then they have every right to take mine. I would know what I was doing if I did it and I would know what could happen to me if I was caught and I would deserve it no matter why I did it.

I am not god and I have no power to take a life without the punishment in the end. If I did it I would stand up to what I did and accept the punishment.

Troy Kell took two lives and I think two lives for the price of one is a fucked up deal.

If you are going to kill or harm someone then you must realize that you will get it back in two folds in the end. That is life so stop crying and bitching and stand up and take it like a man and face it.

We might live in the free world but nothing is free. Taking a life is not a free sport you can enjoy. If it was then no one would be here writing and defending a coward who killed two unarmed men and now is crying that he wants to live.

Tuff shit Troy Kell. You did what you did and who cares why you did it. Now shut the fuck up and face it!

For Brooksie-- It is also obvious that you as well harbor a great amount of anger, are you a victim of crime? If so I can understand, however your choice of grammar to say the least hopefully doesn't indicate your level of intelligence. It is written that Thou Shalt Not Kill, only God is the one who can truly provide justice in any situation. Your Grandmother was right about being responsible for your actions, your comments on Michael Jackson could be considered a crime as well, Terroristic Threat. It is possible for you to be sued or to get a visit from law enforcement if someone affiliated with Michael Jackson were to read and act on your statement.

If you read the comments clearly. I said my first thought was someone is going to shoot that man. I did not say I was going too nor did I make that statement to anyone. That was a thought in my head and this is a free world and I can express that with out it being a threat!
He did not harm my child and I could care less about Michael Jackson. If it was my child then it would be a diffrent situation all together but it wasn't nor do I even know the child. It was just a thought and nothing more.

I also said if someone did harm my child I would take their life and I also said I would accept my punishment. I love my son more then life it's self and if someone took advantage of his inocense by raping or molesting him then that person and I would deal with it then and there. I am not saying that taking someones life is right nor did I say I would not accept the punishment. It is wrong to take someones life and if I did I would deserve my life to be taken as well.
I do not know god nor do I beleive in what is said in the bible. If by chance there is a god and I meet him then I have a lot of questions to ask him. But as of right now I could care less what is said in the bible as it has been written in to many diffrent languages, versions and religions.
God is not a religion nor do I beleive he condones them. He is god and he could care less if you were jewish, catholic, christian, and so on. There is only one god and that god does not choose who will die and who will live. He does not have that power. If he did then why would a baby die in his mothers arms or a child get shot for no reason?
People kill people or people die from accidents, natural causes or they get sick.
Troy Kell killed two people and now the goverment wants to kill him. So be it. Why should he live when he did not give the two men he killed the choice to live.
I also think if the goverment kills him then they are no better then him. There is no win or lose here. In the end someone dies by someone else hand.
And no I'm not personally a victim of crime. No more then any other American living in the United States. I'm just like all the other true Americans and I'm tired of all the crap that goes on and never seems to stop. I'm tired of people killing other people and begging for their lives to be spared.
I'm tired of child molesters and rapist getting away free and not having to face their victims and their punishment.
You know I have no idea if Michael did it or not but the jury afterwards said he did but the state could not prove it. My questions is if they state could not prove it then why would they think it? Something must have made them think what he did was true? What did they want it to be written in English more clearly?
It is he did or he didn't not maybe he did or I think he did. Troy Kell was not a maybe he did or I think he did. It was he did do it and look it is caught on tape. He killed a man who was handcuffed to his waist and could not defend himself. I don't think one person in this life time can actually say maybe he did or maybe he didn't. Troy Kell even said he did it. Now he needs to pay for it and if the good old USA thinks he should die then let them kill him. It is his blood on their hands not mine.

Shoot the bastard!

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For Brooksie, I see your point. It is a free country for the most of us. My opinion is that not all murderers deserve to die, when my husband was killed my thought was I wanted them to live the rest of their lives with the knowledge of what they had done, I made a condition of them receiving a life sentence that they had to see photos of the child whose father they had killed in cold blood. It was bittersweet, he was killed when my son was but a year old. For 18 years I did this, until it became my sons decision whether he wanted to continue sending them or not, he chose to name his own son after his father, and sent them photos of the grandchild his father never got to see. All but 1 of them has managed to relay apolgies and remorse, forgiveness is in the eyes of the beholder, I do hope that Troy finds inner peace and forgiveness before he is executed, or possibly is successful in another prison heroin overdose. Thanks Brooksie for your insight

For all, the system did fail Troy Kell it is possible he had mental illness or drug dependencies even before he killed the first person and much more after sentencing him to an adult prison as such a young age. Who raised him? How could he have been saved? He too was a victim most likely of prison rape, not to mention all the assaults. The system is out of control, the are housing not correcting anyone or anything, they ought to remove the wording correctional facility in all prisons unless they are worthy of such.

Troy Kell is someone I will always remember because he is the first and, hopefully, the last man I will see steal the life from another. Had I known what was about to happen I probably would'nt have even started watching the documentary. At first, I was enraged by the disgusting, casual attitude towards the loss of a life, blood is blood reguardless of race, how petty to keep bringing that up as though that were the issue. Troy Kell said he does not believe in Heaven or Hell, that it is made up to control us, did he see the video of himself as he murdered that man? Did he see his countenance afterwards, the look in his eyes? That rage and rebellion is what controls him, is that so much better? He cannot ever get away from it, like a haunted man he cannot hide from it and it has become his identity. Some people feel sorry for him, some people do not. I feel sorry for humanity b/c we ALL have the ability to fall this far, we are all fallen, we are prone to sin it is just that every man has their own vice. So who am I to judge? I can only say we cannot help the cards we are dealt in life only the move we DECIDE to make. Troy got dealt a bad hand, he had a father who did not know how to offer the love every child needs, and he did not know how to flip his hand, his choices prove that. Where is the hope in this situation is what I keep asking myself b/c this has moved something within me that I did not know was there and now I feel compelled to do something that makes a difference for someone with the same hand, in the same shoes as him. Everyone who takes the time to write and praise or condemn Troy is putting their energy into nothing if they are not looking around to find the child who is on there way to becoming another Troy and trying to see if there is anything they could possibly do to help make a difference. Troy Kell is a grown man we cannot make a difference to him unless he wants to make a difference for himself and so far he has shown he is content with his need to be intelligent with everything that makes no difference, so what if he knows the difference between a facist and a racist does that change anything in life? No, he is still miserable, he is still not dealing with the reasons of why he does what he does. He is not unreachable, he is not forsaken but he has to want to be found. And you people cannot find him, only God can find this man and meet him right where he is, only the blood of Jesus can make his sins white as snow. As unfair at that is, it is true, and none of us deserve it but all of us can have the saving grace of Jesus Christ b/c he died so we could live, murderer, rapist, pope it does not matter. Troy Kell does not believe in God but God believes in him, he does not believe in Satan but clearly Satan is so happy to have used him his whole life up to this point. Sleep is for this life only, one day he will wake up in a world he will understand at once is more real then this one and he has already experienced to some degree hell on earth. I will, from here on out, pray that he will decide to let go of the past and realize if in this life there is nothing to look forward to there is hope when he takes his last breath that he can go and meet his creator and not be judged for what he has done AGAIN there but have a new start. And Heaven is no cloud in the sky it is every mystery, beauty, creativity, knowledge known and unknown to man. God bless and forgive him and us who would judge him.

This is for Nicknite, if this guy can repent and accept God as his savior and actully make it to heaven then I dont want to be there.
Its time everyone goes back to school to learn science, we ALL evolved on this planet. People have been using religon to line their pockets for centuries.
Remember this is big business and nothing more.
Lets look at the real problem, Troy Kell was a symptom of bad parenting.

DUMB PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN UNTIL THEY KNOW HOW TO RAISE THEM!!!!

Lets fix the problem from the root, and then society will fix itself.

It still amazes me to read these excuses about bad parenting, in the doc it only said that his father was strict, I live near Columbine and after that people blamed the parents for not being strict enough. Fact is some mother fuckers are just crazy like Chris Rock said. It is the sad truth of what is becoming of our nation, there is always an excuse for everything. It's okay to be fat, to quit and apparently murder because something must of happened in the past that caused the problem.BULLSHIT. I know that nobody reading my opinion is gonna change their's, but it amazes me how something I see as cut and dry, others (a scary amount)see Troy as a victim and easily forget about the families he has ruined and want to save him. He is not a victim, what he CHOSE to do with his life is a shame but of his own doing. If you sick bastards didn't see him on T.V or if he wasn't "good looking" nobody would be defending this piece of shit. And a huge dick in the ass of all the people who make race an issue. And for the guy who called Troy a warrior you probably are one of these dickless supremist fucks, and I'd be willing to bet you got your ass kicked regularly and laid rarely. I don't know why I'm drawn to this site to read these insane comments, but I hope they kill this fuck soon. I can't wait to read what his little girlfriends and bible beaters have to say then.

Mercy and grace are concepts hard to grasp but they are not man's to give or take only God's. I can understand how you would think you would not want to go to Heaven if someone like Troy Kell was going be there but you have to try and imagine if he wanted to be there his heart would be completely different then it is now. I am thankful the mistakes I have made to not hold me in bondage forever but I can decide to turn away from them and live differently. Have you never done something you are grateful was not caught on tape? We all have we may not all murder but sin is sin. But all creation has free choice to change from their ways and choose God's even Troy Kell. I hope he does even if it makes no since to you or anyone else b/c as nasty as what he did is, Jesus died on the cross for all sin including that and b/c of this sacrifice no sin is too great to be covered by his blood. Science has no relational value, where is the love or hope or companionship with THE creator of the world? There is none with science. I hope someday you will be able to seperate science from the ONE who created science. God bless you.

-First of all... We are all Human...Correct... ok well "The State Says I have an illness... mentaly- a Few... now that Im an adult i look back to the 3rd grade when they Diagnosed me Mania DEP-BIPOLAR-ADHD- I have 57 cuts on my left arm-NOT near my wrist- honestly i believe i was wrong fully medicated growing up-What They say how the meds were suppose to effect me ...RIGHT complete oppsite - I live in the number one METH county-Co Co County- and i was stabbed 6 months ago- my door has been kicked in by AIRIAN BROTHERhood ASS. who are either out on parole or on the run... ALL for the simple fact on how our minds and STREET gang tendacies Refuse to let us go-MOre so when THE WHOLE COUNTY n the STREET gangs are on METH12-40=age'd.. THEN u have PRISON gang leaders who " try to RUN street GANGS because its there "PLACE" BUT CAN NOT BECAUSE METH HAS TORN THIS COAST APART IN SOCIETY AFTER society... and point blank period all im saying is- when ur brain and heart soul..what ever grow a certain way.. its like a baby learning to talk- if u speak CORrectly THEN ur CHILD will MOST LIKELY be on point also- BUT IF u are raised in a HIGH TENTION VIOLANT CIRCLE OF FRIENDS- OR EVEN WORSE UR FAMILY- WEATHER U LIKE IT OR NOT ITS WITH U FOR THE REST OF UR LIFE-... im on ANIT SKITSO meds- AT NIGHT- and then i have to take AMPHETIMINES(in a pill) during the day I ISOLATE AS AA PRISONER WITH OUT THE KEY- its SCRAY- I JUST WANNA survive- WHAT DO THEY EXPECT IN PRISON- ALL THESE EXTREME INPATICULAR INSAINE MENTALITYS AND LOCK DOWN 23 HOURS- THEY EXPECT AND PAROLE TO LEAVE PRISON AND LIVE NORMAL EVER AGAIN- I HATE THE SYSTEM-..Please all its is is the same as something GROWING and in time UR A FUCKIN ROBOT-(barcode behind my ear) CO Co PRODUCt- Im on 22(in August) i joined gangs WHEN i was 12 seen my first murder at 13- Stabbed my First Vict- at only 14 and it continued only to get worse and worse- LIKE i think- u might not even get what im saying.. but- point blank period- LIKE THERES a solution for everything-to every problem- THERES a reason To every HUMAN ON THIS earth AS to why- .... how can it be an excuse---THIS IS HOW THEY MADE ME---- I UNDERSTOOD TROY KELL PERFECTLY WELL - I WANTED TO THROW UP WHEN I SAY HIM STABBIN/67x- but then WHAT DO PEOPLE REALLY EXPECT- GIVE THIS GENARATION A FREAKIN BREAK instead of CONTROLLING SOMEBODY ALREADY MADE FUCKED OFF FATE
.. i dont know i might be wrong ... but theres no way... I because i've REacted and NEVER backed down.. and DID things that COULD've givin me 40 -Life..... i could still get life one day- you know when ur mind is extreme and when it never stops thinking- or PAYING att. to your surroundings. and u end up in a situation where u snap- its LIKE a 5th OF vodka- u dont even RECALL..... how can The SYSTEM know whats right reall and wrong... when they cant EVEN FIT OUR SHOES
im finished
RIP CHEWY
LOONEY BOY
BIG T
JIMMY-BEANER
MARQUISE
RIPRICHARD
RIP LEFTY(killed by police-SHOT 56xTIMES 4 stepping out of a stolen car like they asked- no weapon no nothing- but every last cop SHOT HIM UNTILL THEY blew his HEAD RIGHT OFF- he was 21....COP's COURTs' PAROLEs OFFICERs- THOSE R U FUCKIN BIGGEST GANGS- .... i cant even think correctly- WELL RIP to many more i dont wanna list..... SAVE my place... AND THINK ABOUT IT folks- U EXSCAPED!!!
CRYSTAL-AKA SOLITA-SOLA...STAND ALONE..DIE ALONE

God nor the Devil made Troy Kell or anyone else for that matter kill anyone. If you believe there is a heaven and hell than that is your belief but it is not mine nor was it Troy Kells from what I have read.
I do not in anyway believe Troy Kell to be a victim! My mother and father were divorced before I was walking. My Dad was in and out of my life for the last 32 years and was a junkie, drunk, abusive, and mean person. My mother was also a drunk abusive drug addict! I was raised by her as we lived in my grandparents home.
I was never loved or cared for when I was younger by my parents and was forced most of the time to fend for myself. I partied my ass off and did everything and anything I wanted until I had my son at 19 years old.
I never once in my life killed or harmed a human being like Troy Kell did. I never used my family life as a reason as to why I did the things I did when I was younger.
I knew what I was doing and I knew it was bad. I didn't care because I wanted to do it and did what ever the hell I wanted. The only person I ever harmed was myself and no one else. If I did then I would take resposibilty for my actions and not use my idiot parents as an excuse.
If anything I learned from them. I'm a very honest caring mother to my son. I tell him what I have been through and what I have done in the past. I listen to him when he talks and I stand by him no matter what.
I brought this child into this world and give him all I got. I would never leave him or ignore his needs. He did not ask to be born nor did he have an option to choose who his parents are. Nor do any of us ever!
But we do have the option to live our lives the way we would like to. If Troy Kell chooses to shoot a man in the face or stab a man to death then that is his choice. Not his parents, gods or the devils.
No one made him do it nor did they take over his body and mind and do it for him.
He did it on his own and now he has to live for it. If he was rapped, beaten, or harmed in anyway while he is in prison that is the life he choose. He should not have killed two people to get himself there in the first place.
There are people who honestly do not deserve to be in jail and there are people like Troy Kell and murders, rapist, molesters, and so on deserve what they get.
I will never feel sorry for them only their victims.

This is for Crystal.
My sister just passed away at the age of 19 from issues with her lungs. She was born 7 weeks early and has had complications ever sence.
She never complained or made a huge issue about her health. What she did do was smoke pot and Meth for the last 2 years and that pushed her over the edge into death.
I found out after her death that she was smoking Meth. My father, step-mother and 15 year old sister knew and nothing was done about it.
After her death my father and step-mother blamed everyone and anyone they could get their hands on. They blamed her friends, my little 15 yr old sister, and the drug dealers.
What they should have done was looked at themselves in the mirror. It is not their fault nor is it anyone elses fault. My sister was an adult and knew what she was doing and still did it.
But they could have done something to prevent it or help her. They could have been parents who cared about their children instead of being selfish.
They could have done a lot of things but they didn't and in the end they still blamed everyone else when it really was no ones fault.

I love my sister and miss her more then anything. I wish I could have one day or just a minute to tell her I love her. The last time I talked to her was on her birthday and she said I love ya sis talk to you soon. She died 15 days later.

But I also know that she is the one to blame if anyone is at all. She knew she needed help, she knew what she was doing was bad but she didn't want to stop. She was addicted and there was nothing anyone could have done at the point she was at.
Maybe in the begining they could have helped her. Maybe if my parents were not drugies they would have seen her in touble or she would not have fallen in their path in the first place.

People make choices some are good and some are bad. But that is a choice they made. I sometimes think she was selfish in doing it knowing it could take her life. I get upset that she did it and didn't care about what it was doing to her. I had a lot of anger after she left.

I watched my sister be born and take her first breath and I also stood by her side as she die and took her last breath. That was the hardest thing and I directed my anger at everyone and anyone I could find.

Then one day I just realized nothing could have been done. She made up her mind and choose to do meth. I have to deal with that everyday and pray that my son never does it. He has seen it first hand what it does and all I can do it teach him all I know.

But if he does do it that is his choice and I can try to put a stop to it and will with all my power but once someone makes up their mind there is nothing you can really do at that point.

Drugs kill and everyone knows it. Some listen and some don't.

But no one is to blame or to take blame.

Brooksie, I am so sorry for your loss, I have endured the same myself. I know how hurt you must feel, but in spite of it all you are very strong and wise. God Bless You.

Troy Kell has not been executed yet. I called the Utah state prison to get a current address for him. I think he is a victim of the our prison system and is a product of his environment. Its survival of the fittest and until we walk in his shoes, we should not judge.

The failure of family, education, government (local, state, and national), the penal system, and the national conscience have led Troy Kell to the point he has arrived at. The cummulative experiences of his life do not excuse or diminish his personal responsibility. My 18 year old nephew is going to prision for breaking and entering as well as drug charges - he had a hard life with fairly significant childhood trauma. He was never abused physically or sexually but his emotional life was difficult due to a failure to bond with his non-custodial mother. He is responsible for his actions. If he continues to make poor, irresponsible choices in prision I am sure he too will spend life behind bars. Life in prision or the death penalty? Seems neither approach has stemmed the growth of violent crime. I believe that we as a society need to consider the questions we ask pertaining to crime and seek an alternate answer if as a society we are going to horor the US Constitution's preamble - "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." How can we best honor those ideals?

Troy Kell had I choice, still it can never be right to give life without the possibility of parole to a person that is only 18 years of age.

Troy Kell is messed up about a lot of things. He is a man who, as a man, has never seen a city street or an ocean or a friggin' supermarket. He has spent his entire adult life in jail, and this is a penalty for something he did. That something he did that got him in jail was the murder of a child pronographer and statutory rapist. Kudos. Now, he goes into jail without the possibility of parole (that's forever people, FOREVER!!)Iam a Cuban-American, and when i first saw Gladiator Days i began to wonder. . . If i were ever to go to jail, who would save me fromt he predators and rapists and such? I'm far to white for the latin groups, obviously not black, and a stupid disgusting minority to the white supremacists. Troy was lucky, in an odd way, to have been white because it alotted him a spot under the wings of older inmates thatw ould protect him. Unfortunately, it was marrow-minded hick skinheads but that's besides the point. The second murder he commits is the killing of another maximum security risk, who had committed armed robbery and assault on several innocnet victims before going to jail, and he did so as an adult. Let's recall peopel that at theis point, Troy had only kild a pervert rapist. Kell's victim was black, sure, but he had it out for Troy, and I'm sure he would have killed him if he had the chance. Through it all, Troy, the alleged "racist", ,maintained that his victim's family deserved the utmost in respect and that he was remorseful for the fact that it had to go so far.Then to top it off, one must realize that the man who was set to die the very day before Troy, by the exact same means as Troy, had killed half a dozen innocent women. This hardly seems to make any friggin' shred of sense. If you tell me the penalty for killing is killing, then kill Troy twice. but this is obviously not so considering the son of sam, the amityville murderer and Chalrie Manson and his entire team of groupie whores are all still alive and writing books. It's disgusting. Troy Kell is an intelligent respectful pragmatic, authentic person, which is reason enough for me to yearn for his presence on Earth-we're short on people like that. I think he was a boy that could have benefited from some anger management classes at age 18 or so, but alas that did not happen. I cry thinking about the degenerate gun-toting PCP smoking degenerate losers I've met in my life that destroy my beautifully diverse New York neighborhood and the kids in them and yet will never spend a day in jail, and then comparing them to this man who is so tragically beautiful in his truthful air. I hope he stays around long enough for me to write to him and have a nice intelligent eloquent argument about race and politics, b/c I'm deprived of good conversation. If anyone wants to tell me a direct address to write to him, that'd be great. Stay smart, people. - Nati, 19, NYC

I would like to have Troy Kells address as well, if anyone knows where he is located please e mail me his information. Thanks

I've seen rapes, I've seen shanking and I've seen a man get his jaw broken for farting. this only county lock up mind you. If you think race isn't an issue you have never been locked up. I was one of 3 whites guys in a cell that held 12 so it was four to one black to white. Everyday it was fight for your food. morning, noon and night. all because of race. when the weakest white guy was suspected of ratting about not geting food cause he kept getting beat out of it I wittnessed 5 black men restrain and sodomise this guy for over 10 minutes taking turns when they desided to let go of this guy he crawled over to the "panic button" and kept pushing it while he was crying and sobing nothing happend no rescue or even a guard on the intercom. finaly he just crawled back to his bunk so as far as there being the aclu or anyone to save you its a joke. If the blackmon guy did threaten Kell he got what he had coming. Prison isn't a place where manners and rules help you at all its about saveing yourself every second of the day and night. it's just survial plain and simple. there are hundreds if not thousands of people just like him in prison right now.

I cannot believe what I have read on this website. The ignorance that exists today is unbelieveable. I understand everyone keeps saying: "Oh, but Blackmon was there for a reason so he wasn't innocent either". So does that mean that just because you are incarcerated that its acceptable to be stabbed to death 67 times! I also understand that by watching the interview they drilled into our heads how charming and intelligent this monster is but does that justify his actions? Obviously, if he is so smart then he should know what he is doing, and he should know that stabbing a person numerous times, regardless if you heard that he was talking about you, is not right. These ignorant biatches on this site see a handsome man & find it ok what he did. And everyone keeps making this a racial issue. Yeah I'm pretty sure that he did that to Blackmon because he was Black but it does not matter whether he was Black, White, Hispanic, purple, etc., he would've gotten the same sentence, don't u think? & of course it still doesn't make it right. I guess everyone has there own opinion, of course, the racists on this site are going to take Troy's side, saying that it was "self defense". I STILL THINK HIS ASS SHOULD'VE BEEN PUT TO DEATH AGES AGO. OR EVEN WORSE, LET HIM ROT IN A CELL ALONE, FOR LIFE, WITH JUST BREAD & WATER, HOW ABOUT THAT?!

I think the prison outta be held accountable. They stood there for 5 minutes watching while another fellow man was being murdered. The guards have to be accountable, and the system re-evaluated. As for this insignifcant "Kell" person. The sooner they put him down, the better off we will all be. We don't need people like this in our society, or our prisons. As far as I'm concerneed, they should execute him as soon as possible, and as inexpensively as possible.

Troy Kell doesn't make excuses for himself, so don't make them for him.

Some of what I read here is shocking. SHOCKING! It's amazing how some people try real hard to find an argument or advocacy in any form on any topic. I grew up in an American inner city. Around killers, thugs and just plain some of the meanest men and women you don't ever want to meet. My father was nowhere nor my Mom. Several of us where in this situation. I'm not a murderous savage.

I watched this documentry and am very bothered. He planned it (quite cleverly), recruited an accompliss, attacked Blackmon and then man VICIOUSLY stabbed this man 67 times. Once his accompliss let him go, he went back and stabbed his motionless body some more including a blow to the face in which the knife stuck. He calmly pulled it out (lifting Blackmons head of the floor) and stabbed him some more. He began to walk away, turned around, picked up the knife again, rolled Blackmon's motionless body onto his back and stabbed him some more in the throat. He then screamed "Let's get some White Power jumpin' off in here!!!" Calmly wiped the blood from his hands and was arrested. Let me remind you he shot his first victim 5 times in the face at point blank range and then left him there to rot.

These are the acts of a man who knew exactly what he was doing and enjoyed it. He's very charming, very smart and contradicts himself every step of the way. He says "I don't hate Black people, I just love the white man." But, he wrote letters weeks in advance saying "I'm going to kill me a Monkey Nigger." You guys aren't that stupid. This man believes he can manipulate his way out of any situation. Proven by his self described "academy award winning performance" at his trial.

When you're a grown man you have to be accountable for what you do. PERIOD! You kill, you go to prison. You kill in Prison and you die (one way or another). Blackmon was no angel, but that doesn't matter. And we all know that if a white boy, brown, blue, red or orange boy was murdered that vicously it would still be a huge deal and Troy Kell would still die. So just leave the race madness out of it. He was a racist and he admits it and who cares. HE SAVAGELY MUTILATED A LIVING HUMAN BEING!

I don't believe the death penalty is just, nor is it effective. But people don't sit here and say Troy Kell is a victim and none of it is his fault and you love him and support him. Goodness why don't you bake him a cake and organize a parade in his honor. I want you to close your eyes and think about the fact that you love, support and want the best for a man that has BRUTALLY taken two lives. And would certainly take more given the chance.

TO: Terri in Texas...

I just moved from one state to another. Can I go kill someone and use that as an excuse? That's what you're saying.

Troy Kell was transfered because it was believed that he was involved in Murders in the NDC and intended to kill the man in the yard before he was shot with a rubber bullet (it is also public record). Prison Transfers are common. I'm glad to know that it gives us a reason to butcher people.

And folks an 18 year old is a man. He had a chnce to get 10 - 15 years but refused because he believed he could manipulate his way out of it and so he paid the price for his decision. That's the way it works. And by the way, his girlfriend has been rehabilitated and she had it a lot worse off than he did. And she was only 15.

is he still alive?

Just think, folks: the only reason that Troy Kell's case is of any interest to us is because we saw the actual footage. Without the videotape, Troy Kell is nothing more than an anonymous statistic, not even worthy of a cubic inch of newsprint in your daily broadsheet.

I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I doubt very much that it would be an exageration to suggest that, in a given calendar year, there are hundreds of inmates brutally murdered in maximum security facilities within the US. There are literally thousands of Troy Kells, each with a story as horrifying and as heartbreaking, but nobody cares about them because, for the most part, we're all too goddamn busy watching television.

In any case, Troy Kell is a monster. He may not always have been a monster, he might even deserve some of our pity, but, his miserable formative circumstances notwithstanding, the thing he is today is absolutely nauseating.

In the course of the documentary, Kell made some flippant remark about his pride in there being "one less nigger in the world" as a result of his killing Blackmon. Well, Troy, and all the rest of you white power nuts, I can say confidently that I'll sleep far better when you're dead, 'cuz that's one less inbred redneck sociopath in the world. White power indeed.

To Losing Faith in Humanity-- TAKING A LIFE IS NEVER RIGHT REGARDLESS... WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL OF OUR ACTIONS... WHAT DOES MOVING FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? AS FOR AS 18 YR OLDS BEING MEN, THEY ARE NOT. THEY CANNOT SIGN A LEGAL CONTRACT, CANNOT PURCHASE ALCOHOL YET MAY BE DRAFTED AND PROSECUTED BY AN ADULT SYSTEM...I KNOW THIS I HAVE 7 SONS. AS LONG AS THE TEEN IS ON THE END OF THEIR AGE THEY ARE CHILDREN

By the way, who made the profit off of that documentary? Hopefully it was victims of violent crime and none other...

I'd like to say again, that I think the prison should be held accountable, and that "kell" should be put to death as soon as possible, in the most inexpensive way possible.

Troy Kell's address is:

Inmate Troy Kell, #22204
Unit A 1
Utah State Prison
P. O. Box 250
Draper, Utah 84020

Thanks for the address dallasalex, you can call me HoustonTeri

Terri in Texas...

You said in an earlier post that the only reason this happened is because he was transfered from one state to another. Which is Hog Wash. He was transfered because he was acting the same way in another prison.

Listen, an 18 year old is certainly a young man that has a lot of growing up to do. No doubt. It is a sad deal when you have to pay for mistakes made at such a young age. But we're not talking about car theft, we're talking about Murder. Legally, an 18 yeear old is an adult. He can sign a legal contract, they are legally emancipated, pay their own taxes and can recieve loans. Indeed, the only thing he can't do is buy alcohol.

And the fact of the matter is that by age 18, you have your morals, a sense of right and wrong and knowledge that you will pay dearly for your actions if you screw up with the law.

You go ahead and tell him how bad you feel for him. Let him charm you to. While your at it, write the Blackmon family and tell them how unfair we are all being to the man that butchered their son.

Between reading some of these rediculous postings and watching this doc, I feel as if I've wasted 3 hours of my life. Surely, some of you are jokingly implying that Troy be given a chance at a new life, he's a warrior, or a by-product of his sad upbringing...Blah, Blah, Blah,...BOTTOMLINE, he is an anchor on our society, waste of a life, and costing us thousands of dollars every year to keep alive! I can think of literally a million more productive ways to utilize this money than keeping him alive on death row! This gentleman is doing every citizen of this country an injustice by refusing to die and appealing. Hopefully, soon he will and each and everyone of you will forget all about him and spend your time on more productive tasks. So please, log off this site and go spend time with your friends and family. Nothing you say or do will change his disposition - he will die - and you will move on with your life and forget him. Point being --> he is simply a waste. Please move on with your lives!!

To "absolutley amazed", I agree with you. As for kell. He needs to die a.s.a.p. We're all better off.

I can't believe that some of you people are saying that Troy deserves to live! Regardless of what race the victim was it was still murder. Unfortunatley it was a white man against a black man, which made it look like a hate crime. I saw that documentary and I can't believe how that young man died! and to say that Troy doesn't deserve to die is crazy. He murdered someone in a vicious and hateful way you could just see it in his face and his mannerism. I'm not saying that Lonnie was a saint and that Troy was a saint Hello they were both in jail but that doesn't mean that it was okay to kill someone in that manner. He deserves to be punished and he was already in jail serving time for killing someone else so what the hell difference will it make to Troy if he stays there for the rest of his life...Eventually he will probably get mad at some prison inmate and try to kill him just like he tried with that Muslim man in 2001. The only way to stop him is by giving him the death penality and for all it's worth I wish someone from Lonnie's family would pull the trigger! I hate to see anyone get killed but he gets what he deserves. Eye for an Eye Tooth for a Tooth. What comes around goes around. I hope that Troy will stop being such a coward and take his death sentence like a man and stop trying to appeal. If the justice system worked right Troy would have died back in June...here we are a few years later and he is still living his life unlike the people he killed. Lonnie's family has to live everday with the fact that a family memeber is dead and that the man who did it is still alive. I swear if it was someone in my family I would be going crazy. For all of you who side with Troy imagine it was someone in your family...How do you feel now? The state of Utah needs to kill him and it needs to be NOW!!!!!!!

I'm not saying Troy Kell is a good guy or deserves a second chance, but I will say that both of the people he killed are scourge, just like him. Those who advocate his death would also advocate the deaths of those he killed.
Taking a life without consent is murder. If you condone killing Kell, you condone the killing he committed.

Even George Bush has a soul.

All you people writing these comments how many of you have been locked up? if you aint
been there you dont know shit. Troy Kell did what he had to do like it or not

I just watched the doc a couple of nights ago and I was truly disturbed. Troy Kell stabbing a man 67 times was an image I don't think I will ever get out of my head. And that it was videotaped in it's entirety, is scary also. Didn't one of the guards say that he was going to do something before it even started? I think they could have stopped it and saved Lonnie's life, if not even have stepped in and prevented it from happening. I think the guards thought that the inmates were all trash and the "show" gave them something to do in an otherwise mundane day.

I don't think that there is ever an excuse for killing someone. But, I think that fear can put you in a position where it's either kill or be killed. Someone I care about very much is incarcerated in Pennslyvania, my daughter's father, and he calls and he is scared most of the time. And he is only in county lock up. He says that they have to fight everyday just for their food trays. I was already afraid for him, and worry about him constantly, but when I saw this documentary, I worry even more. I worry about his safety everyday. He talks shit constantly about how this person said this and this person said that. And that you HAVE to stand up for yourself otherwise ur considered a "bitch" and more people mess with you. He grew up going in and out of boys homes, had an abusive mother, never knew his father, his step-father molested him. Since he was 7 he has been in jail in one form or another. He truly has been a victim. And he learned at a very young age, when going into a new home, to find the very biggest, scariest guy and knock him flat on his ass to gain respect. And this is a person I have known for 12 years, and he is basically a good guy, is an excellent father, but, I can see him being threatened in prison and doing something similiar to what Troy Kell did. Because in prison it's all about survival and respect.

I don't think that Troy should have gotten a life sentence at the age of 18 years old. I think he should have gotten time, of course, but also councelling, anger management, drug councelling, life-skills classes. I think that being in prison made a young man who already made a huge mistake turn into someone who knows he has NO future, is never going to live in the outside world, he is only going to know the inside of the prison. I think he knew what he was doing and that it could get him the death penalty, and he would rather be dead than live in prison til he is old and dies. And realizing that he DID indeed get the death penalty he realizes he IS going to die now and now regrets what he did. I think his head is all messed up. And I know I am rambling on, but, I can't help it. It's mostly based on the fear that my daughter's father, on any given day, could be put in the same situation and do the same thing, and she would lose him forever. And it makes me sad.

I'm truly sorry for what you are going through Guardian. I wish you a lot of luck with your situation. I know what you mean because I have a cousin that has been incarcerated for over 11yrs. Its hard, but hopefully with a lot of praying, things will pull through. Just keep your head up and be the best mom & dad you can be to your daughter until her father comes out. I know its very difficult to control but you cannot drive yourself crazy over something you cant control. Just try to be there for your daughter's father emotionally, mentally and spiritually & hopefully that'll help him pull through :)

I just watched the HBO documentary about Troy Kell and I think I am still in shock. The one thing that I think everyone has overlooked is the fact that the guards waited for over five minutes before going in to try and help Blackmon. There were people watching this brutal murder - doing nothing! Where were the guards? Hiding and waiting to get into riot gear - ridiculous!

The murder itself was the most brutal thing I had ever seen in my life and I don't think that I will get over it anytime soon. While Troy may be an attractive and articulate young man, we must remember that he has taken two lives, violently.

I had a horrible childhood and was abused constantly. Would I love to take a baseball bat to those who caused me such great harm? Of course! But psychologically fit people have that thing inside of them that tells them that murder is wrong. Troy clearly is missing this.

I like to believe that people are, for the most part, good, but in this case it is clear that Troy plotted, planned and executed a very brutal murder. Although I feel sad for the life Troy has had but that doesn't cloud my judgement in any way. He's a murderer.

I was deeply affected by this documentary but the fact is that murder is just wrong. The prison system definitely has its flaws but the bottom line is - a life for a life. Troy has already taken two.....He owes us more than one....let's start with his own.

Well folks, here's the skinny on Troy the victim, or Troy the cold blooded killer...
I grew up with Troy, went to school with Troy, skipped school with Troy, got stoned with Troy, and and watched Troy get his ass beat everytime his dad was home.He was not a victim when he killed the guy in the desert. In fact, he was called the "show and tell murderer" for a reason. He charged other kids to see the body. He may of killed his victim with six shots, but he pumped more rounds into the body as part of the show to the other kids. I know Troy as a cold son of a bitch, but I also see Troy as my bestfriend growing up.
Yes, Troy would defend anyone he cares about, to the death... But, once prevoked, would turn on someone just as quick. His father beat him mercilessly. And if Troy lost a fight, he was made to go back and defend his honor until he won. Troy is not a victim of society, he is a victim of his father. Yet, Troy would freak out if anyone said anything bad about his dad.
He loves his father more than anyone I know, yet if he wasn't in prison now, I am fairly sure that his dad would be dead by his hands. If you have ever seen two grown men fight, that is how Troy's dad would beat him when he was just ten years old. His step-mom was just indifferent. There was never any love in that household, just an uneasy respect mixed with a palpable fear of mistepping.
Troy was conditioned to be merciless. if someone wronged him, he would have to go back and right the wrong, so he believes that if he kills someone they won't come back for revenge. But, if he let that person live, they will get him. In effect, his life depends on cancelling out the threat.
With Troy being in prison, he has nothing to defend but his life, and his pride. Therefore, if either is threatened, he will do his best to defend both. And I have no doubt that Troy percieved a threat from Mr. Blackmon, to both his pride, and his life, whether immediately, or in the future.
Therefore he had to eliminate the threat.
It's a sick way to think, but that is how he was raised.

was he executed yet or not?
It would be a sad story if he has ot be killed yet. I watched the HBO special and it was disgusting to see someone so lifeless take another life, stabbing a black man 67 times for a reason over race. He needs to be shot 67 times.

I want to know if he's been executed or not.

I am very interested in knowing if he was executed or not. I believe the first murder he commited he was still a child and shuold not have recieved such a harsh sentence. I also believe that prison made him worse instead of reabiltating him it made him into what he is and that is the reason for the second murder.

To "laurie", I agree with you one hundred percent. You couldn't have said it better, the prison guards have to be held accountable. To, "in the know", A lot of people have had fathers that mistreated them. And most people don't do what he did. He's an animal, a waste, that has to be put down as fast as possible for as little money as possible.

NEWSFLASH!!!! Lonely?? Male??? Damaged beyond repair??? The great state of Texas or the country of Holland is for you. Obviously there are some seriously depraved people posting on this site. Kell is a stone-cold killer. Some interesting points of discussion have been made here, and by the very nature of this story you could go off on 1000's of debatable tangents but HELLOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! He is a fucking killer and I applaud the officers who caught his ass. Where is the bleeding heart sympathy for his first victim? Fuck, even the documentary refers to him as "Canadian Guy". One post earlier hit this right on the money....if this were not aired on television none of you seriously depraved dipshits would be asking for this guys address. For those of you who were Troy's friend from his childhood, hey, nothing against you. There is history there..your emotions are real and not for any of us to judge. Teri in Texas, et. al give me a fucking break. Wake up. There are 1000's of "Troy Kell's" in our prison system. Guess what? Some of them had even more horrific childhood years then Troy. I love this country because we have the ability to engage in these types of discussions openly and freely. However, as a matter of personal respect for your fellow person....don't throw up a litany of liberal verbage to hide the fact that this guy got you a little "humid" in specific areas. I think it is a shame that Troy became what he is at but at the end of the day he cannot be allowed to interact with society at large. Prison the rest of his life or death...I am not educated enough in that environment to even venture a guess. I do know that those of you who crying out to "support" him are full of shit. You want to "support" Troy? Work to make the world a better place. Troy is NEVER going to get out of jail...if he lives another year. He is a killer...he killed in the worst possible way ("Canadian Guy" people). Work to make sure that we create environments where we greatly decrease the likelihood of breeding more Troy Kells. Be decent to each other....that's how you can help Troy and everyone else. Not by sending him a partial nudie shot of your fat ass taken by one of your umpteen illegitimate children who you are scarring for life under the premise of "doin'a good thing". Let those who have been through the wars with Troy worry about him. You wanna help? Help us fix the world. Otherwise shut the fuck up.

To "REAL": I couldn't have said it any better!!

To in-the-know:

Wow! So you actually grew up with Troy? Not only am I impressed that you would shamelessly admit to being in any way connected to someone so revoltingly sick, I'm also amazed that someone with the same white-trash background can actually type a complete sentence!

C'mon, asshole, show us your Las Vegas high school diploma and a picture of you two guys out torturing dogs together, or shut the fuck up.

To in-the-know:

Wow! So you actually grew up with Troy? Not only am I impressed that you would shamelessly admit to being in any way connected to someone so revoltingly sick, I'm also amazed that someone with the same white-trash background can actually type a complete sentence!

C'mon, asshole, show us your Las Vegas high school diploma and a picture of you two guys out torturing dogs together, or shut the fuck up.

To Skeptical: I think you're absolutely right. "In the know" sounds just as much a useless idiot as Kell.

For Skeptical and Peter, In the Know has done nothing 50% of the population has not done: skip school, smoke, hang out with losers etc. The person he hung out with happened to be a murderer. Anyway he sounds more intelligent then the two of you combined and I am no advocate of Troy Kell. Grow up.

Hey Nick, I would highly doubt that "in the know" is more intelligent than me. Or anyone for that matter. Even you. He's an idiot. Not for what he did or who he hung out with, but for making excuses for someone whose actions should have no tolerance in this society.

In this writer's view, Troy Kell is a pure psychopath. His ability to justify his actions, and his hate toward himself and his fellow man is positively incredible. I was sickened by the video in "Gladiator Days" the first time; to the point that I would bear to say that I have never seen anything so disgusting in my entire life. Moreover, the stunning change in his buddy who was an accomplice in the crime, Eric Davis, was remarkable. Here is a fellow who looks and appears, in the latter portion of the video, to be sane, sensible, and a humble sort of guy. Perhaps Christ does work miracles.

Put into the same situation,...would any of us have done anything better or worse? Upon being threatened daily and given the choice, I could env